To sound like another mindless internet drone myself...I'll start this off with "I think." I think this...well, I"m really sure this song is about society today. And yes, today is the same (if not worse) than 12 years ago when the album was released. Anyway, I think this song is about society in the manner that nobody is free to be themselves anymore. The only time we are truly individuals are when we rebel. The way the world works, as soon as we are born, we are influenced by those around us to join the conformist, industry-ruled world we live in. Even though it was a comedy, Number 2 in Austin Powers said it best. "There is no world anymore. It's just corporations." And given the lyrics "What I've felt
What I've known
Never shined through in what I've shown
Never free
Never me
So I dub thee unforgiven"
I just find that these enforce my thoughts.
"What I've felt" -- deals with his feelings and emotions
"What I've known" -- Everything that he (and we) know that we aren't allowed by culture to disperse
"Never shine through in what I"ve shown" --We are becoming one big lump of crap...a big mass with no individuality. This means that even though he's a person, it doesn't show, because he's a drone.
"Never free" --Ruled by everything around him
"Never me" --It's not acceptable in today's culture to be yourself. (I say screw this and everyone who enforces it, but that's the way it is)
"So I dub thee unforgiven" --He feels he's unforgiven because he can't find it in him to stand out so much that you'll recognize him in the basic group of lowlifes.
Anyway, this is what I think the song means.
That is exactly how i understand that part....except the last line- So I dub thee unforgiven...i dont get that line...maybe because i dont know englis so well..
That is exactly how i understand that part....except the last line- So I dub thee unforgiven...i dont get that line...maybe because i dont know englis so well..
@OrgasmThroughFinch
"So I dub thee unforigven" literally means "So I call you unforgiven"
it sounds more like he can't forgive the person who has caused it.
@OrgasmThroughFinch
"So I dub thee unforigven" literally means "So I call you unforgiven"
it sounds more like he can't forgive the person who has caused it.
@OrgasmThroughFinch you know this song well, and probably have more years on me. If society is worse today for conforming, then it might be you being older and having more responsibility, but it is hard to say. In reality, it is your choice to blend in or stand out based on whatever situation you are in. When it doesn't go your way, you can write a song about it and become famous, but then you have to accept all of the requests that come with it. Metallica seems pretty happy despite the anger in their songs.
@OrgasmThroughFinch you know this song well, and probably have more years on me. If society is worse today for conforming, then it might be you being older and having more responsibility, but it is hard to say. In reality, it is your choice to blend in or stand out based on whatever situation you are in. When it doesn't go your way, you can write a song about it and become famous, but then you have to accept all of the requests that come with it. Metallica seems pretty happy despite the anger in their songs.
Never be, never me... it refers to the fact that I'm not free at all, which means I act like others think like others think etc. Therefore it is not the real me but instead it is MEN, just like in Martin Heidegger's philosophy or Jiddu Krishnamurti thoughts.
Never be, never me... it refers to the fact that I'm not free at all, which means I act like others think like others think etc. Therefore it is not the real me but instead it is MEN, just like in Martin Heidegger's philosophy or Jiddu Krishnamurti thoughts.
Thank you for the explanation of "So I dub thee unforgivern". The subject can be MEN, the society, but also including myself, himself. Because me and the world is just the same, not separated. We all are unforgiven.
Thank you for the explanation of "So I dub thee unforgivern". The subject can be MEN, the society, but also including myself, himself. Because me and the world is just the same, not separated. We all are unforgiven.
To sound like another mindless internet drone myself...I'll start this off with "I think." I think this...well, I"m really sure this song is about society today. And yes, today is the same (if not worse) than 12 years ago when the album was released. Anyway, I think this song is about society in the manner that nobody is free to be themselves anymore. The only time we are truly individuals are when we rebel. The way the world works, as soon as we are born, we are influenced by those around us to join the conformist, industry-ruled world we live in. Even though it was a comedy, Number 2 in Austin Powers said it best. "There is no world anymore. It's just corporations." And given the lyrics "What I've felt What I've known Never shined through in what I've shown Never free Never me So I dub thee unforgiven"
I just find that these enforce my thoughts.
"What I've felt" -- deals with his feelings and emotions "What I've known" -- Everything that he (and we) know that we aren't allowed by culture to disperse "Never shine through in what I"ve shown" --We are becoming one big lump of crap...a big mass with no individuality. This means that even though he's a person, it doesn't show, because he's a drone. "Never free" --Ruled by everything around him "Never me" --It's not acceptable in today's culture to be yourself. (I say screw this and everyone who enforces it, but that's the way it is) "So I dub thee unforgiven" --He feels he's unforgiven because he can't find it in him to stand out so much that you'll recognize him in the basic group of lowlifes.
Anyway, this is what I think the song means.
That is exactly how i understand that part....except the last line- So I dub thee unforgiven...i dont get that line...maybe because i dont know englis so well..
That is exactly how i understand that part....except the last line- So I dub thee unforgiven...i dont get that line...maybe because i dont know englis so well..
@OrgasmThroughFinch "So I dub thee unforigven" literally means "So I call you unforgiven" it sounds more like he can't forgive the person who has caused it.
@OrgasmThroughFinch "So I dub thee unforigven" literally means "So I call you unforgiven" it sounds more like he can't forgive the person who has caused it.
BTW Can anyone explain the following part please?
BTW Can anyone explain the following part please?
Never be Never see
Never be Never see
@OrgasmThroughFinch Never be (himself/ what he wants to be), Never see (what he could have done or become (won't see what might have been).
@OrgasmThroughFinch Never be (himself/ what he wants to be), Never see (what he could have done or become (won't see what might have been).
@OrgasmThroughFinch you know this song well, and probably have more years on me. If society is worse today for conforming, then it might be you being older and having more responsibility, but it is hard to say. In reality, it is your choice to blend in or stand out based on whatever situation you are in. When it doesn't go your way, you can write a song about it and become famous, but then you have to accept all of the requests that come with it. Metallica seems pretty happy despite the anger in their songs.
@OrgasmThroughFinch you know this song well, and probably have more years on me. If society is worse today for conforming, then it might be you being older and having more responsibility, but it is hard to say. In reality, it is your choice to blend in or stand out based on whatever situation you are in. When it doesn't go your way, you can write a song about it and become famous, but then you have to accept all of the requests that come with it. Metallica seems pretty happy despite the anger in their songs.
@OrgasmThroughFinch
@OrgasmThroughFinch
Never be, never me... it refers to the fact that I'm not free at all, which means I act like others think like others think etc. Therefore it is not the real me but instead it is MEN, just like in Martin Heidegger's philosophy or Jiddu Krishnamurti thoughts.
Never be, never me... it refers to the fact that I'm not free at all, which means I act like others think like others think etc. Therefore it is not the real me but instead it is MEN, just like in Martin Heidegger's philosophy or Jiddu Krishnamurti thoughts.
@Quince
@Quince
Thank you for the explanation of "So I dub thee unforgivern". The subject can be MEN, the society, but also including myself, himself. Because me and the world is just the same, not separated. We all are unforgiven.
Thank you for the explanation of "So I dub thee unforgivern". The subject can be MEN, the society, but also including myself, himself. Because me and the world is just the same, not separated. We all are unforgiven.