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my friend said to me "one day you'll get tired of the smiths" I reflected upon this and replied, " Sadly mike, no, you can never get tired of the Smiths."
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Billy Bragg – Trust Lyrics 8 years ago
I think it's a song about a woman who is in a sexually abuse relationship. It's a pretty moving song.

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Billy Bragg – Trust Lyrics 8 years ago
@[Dvel:6010] I think it's more about rape.

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The Smiths – What Do You See in Him? Lyrics 9 years ago
@[dhowellbassist:1695] for example, what do you see in him, and then morrissey is talking to him saying, she will plague you and i will be glad, and I do think it's Morrissey's accent, I do think it's what do you see in him.

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The Smiths – You've Got Everything Now Lyrics 9 years ago
Morrissey often changed the lyrics of this song in live performances, from "You've got everything now" to "You've got nothing now", this suggests that he may have been looking back, later on, at the person that had everything, and now has nothing.
It seems to be done later on in the smiths, this could suggest that the smiths became so popular that Morrissey had everything and the people who had, what seemed like, everything then, have nothing in comparison to him, he also says "I've never had a job, because I've never had an interview", and "I've never had a job because I'm too sensible." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-iVZvPPsi4

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Morrissey – I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday Lyrics 9 years ago
This song is absolute perfection, when I listen to it, I get goosebumps every time I listen to it, even when reading it I am overrun by the same sensation, the utter bliss and sadness when listening to this song is mind boggling, It always makes me think, people I know and love are going to die someday, and there's nothing I can do about it, but it's not a bad thing because it will be alright, and in honesty I first listened to this song shortly after finding out about Morrissey's reported cancer treatment, and it made me shed a tear, something that I do so very very infrequently. Day in day out, Morrissey saves me, there is nothing more that can be said.

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The Smiths – Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now Lyrics 10 years ago
I remember listening to this song on the way back from the Wolves vs. Burnley game last year (we lost 2-0 and it pretty much assured relegation into league 1) and it couldn't have come at more of a coincidental time, we all just stopped talking in the car, rolled down the windows, turned it up and all started singing along to it whilst it was being blasted through the streets of Wolverhampton, it sort of just reflected our whole season, we started off happy in "the haze of a drunken hour" whilst we were cruising along in 2nd and 3rd for about a month and a half, and then we just started plummeting down the table and heaven knew everybody was pretty miserable come December, and then the fans started to get on the players backs, and I bet they thought, "why should I give valuable time, to people who I'd much rather, kick in the eye"

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Billy Bragg – Valentine's Day Is Over Lyrics 10 years ago
I see this song as maybe once a year the husband treats his wife with love and compassion on the one day of the year that is valentines day, but for the rest of the year he goes back to his abusive nature, "surprise surprise" this suggests that the song could be set shortly after valentines day and when the husband has "gone to the dogs again" and that the wife doesn't expect him to come home "anything but blind" this backs up my point of the one day of the year where the husband treats his wife right, over.

"And lately it seems that as it all gets tougher, Your idea of justice just becomes rougher and rougher" this part of the song further backs up the theory of the song being about a woman that is being abused by her husband, the longer and longer their relationship goes on the husband is getting worse and worse, because as things for them are getting tougher, he is abusing her even more than ever before.

This last bit of the song "Thank you for the things you bought me, thank you for the card. Thank you for the things you taught me when you hit me hard. That love between two people must be based on understanding ,until that's true you'll find your things all stacked out on the landing, Surprise, surprise! Valentine's day is over, it's over"
This part of the song suggests that at first the husband treated the wife in the right way, brought her things and cards, and then started to physically abused her, and then in the end she realises that for two people to love each other, "it is based on understanding" and as she realises that that is not what her husband has, understanding of her, she kicks him out, and then saying "surprise surprise, valentines day is over", she is telling the husband that for them to be together everyday she needs to be treated like she is on valentines day, and that the physical abuse has to stop.

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The Smiths – This Night Has Opened My Eyes Lyrics 10 years ago
My general thoughts of what the song means:

"in a river the colour of lead immerse the baby's head" - Child birth

"Wrap her up in the News Of The World, dump her on a doorstep, girl" - maybe the people who are the baby's parent didn't want the baby, they are maybe 'dumping' the baby, on the doorstep of an orphanage.

"Oh, he said he'd cure your ills, but he didn't and he never will" - the father of this newborn child could have promised the baby at birth that he will look after her, care for her and 'cure your ills', but because the parents couldn't keep the child and gave her up, he never did get the chance to care for her, or to cure her ills.

"The dream has gone but the baby is real, Oh, you did a good thing" - This could be the parents of the child realising that if the child were to grow up with them it could have a miserable unhappy life, so if they did give her away, they could think that they 'did a good thing'.

"She could have been a poet, Or, she could have been a fool, Oh, you did a bad thing" - Once they have given the child away, they realise that they will never be able to see, what they created, grow and mature, they will never be able to see what this child will grow up to be, a poet, a fool? they then realise 'they did a bad thing'.

"A shoeless child on a swing, reminds you of your own again" - they realise that they have done a bad thing and it eats away at them, every were they go they look at children and they remind them of their own again.

"She took away your troubles, Oh, but then again she left pain" - this could suggest that the person who took their child at the orphanage could have 'took away their troubles' by taking the huge responsibility of a child away from them, but 'then again she left pain' because they regret giving their child up they will always live with the pain of knowing their child is out there on there own.

(This could also suggest that giving up the baby took away their troubles but at the same to brought them pain, making a huge void in their life that may never be fulfilled.)

This is just my thoughts on the song and I could be wrong.

( I also read somewhere that this song was based on a film that Morrissey liked quite a lot.)

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The Smiths – Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now Lyrics 10 years ago
It's great that you like The Smiths but when you said the word 'FUGLY', I thought that this was a stupid comment, but after that paragraph you were just wondering what the song means, Caligula was a very very bad murderous roman emperor, who raped killed and ate his own child. also I was just thinking that you said that you wouldn't get a reply for 2 years, and here I am replying to this almost five years after you posted this

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The Smiths – Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now Lyrics 10 years ago
It's great that you like The Smiths but when you said the word 'FUGLY', I thought that this was a stupid comment, but after that paragraph you were just wondering what the song means, Caligula was a very very bad murderous roman emperor, who raped killed and ate his own child.

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The Smiths – Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now Lyrics 10 years ago
Quote from "Morrissey and Marr: the severed alliance" by Johnny Rogan. "He astonished colleagues, and even himself, by accepting a clerical post with the Inland Revenue. The wages were £22.50 for a 37-hour week and the working conditions seemed tolerable and untaxing. Despite breaking free of the dole, Morrissey was still uneasy about the prospect of starting work. "when I had no job I could pinpoint my depression," he mused, "but when I did get a job I was still depressed." It was that attitude that he later captured most vividly in the lyrics to 'Heaven knows I'm miserable now'."- Johnny Rogan
So, when he say "I was looking for a job, and then I found a job, and heaven knows I'm miserable now" he is saying that yes, he was depressed and in a bad place, and he knew why he was depressed and he could focus on that depression, and he thought that getting a job might change that, but when he got his job, he was still depressed and he couldn't focus on the depression because he had to put all his energy into work. ( a couple of months later he quit this job.)
After reading this passage of the book it has given me an insight to what this part of the song means, so, in conclusion, I think that at this time he was in a bad place and when he tried to make it better, by getting a job, it doesn't make any difference, he shares this experience with us in this part of the song 'Heaven knows I'm miserable now'.
~Hatful of Nathan

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The Smiths – Still Ill Lyrics 10 years ago
I was reading "Morrissey and Marr: The severed alliance" by Johnny Rogan, and he says something along the lines that "England is mine and it owes me a living" was from a poem he was fond of, it starts with 2The world is mine and it owes me a living"

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