| The Stone Roses – Waterfall Lyrics | 8 years ago |
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@[olliephelan:9710] Id stress again that its more about Britain than the girl . The girl is Britain . "Fills her brigantine sails .....means British ships sailing the seas and carrying on . Britain is THE " American satellite" . Being Irish , Im reluctant to say it but its obvious . I mean they have the Union Jack on their cover . Britain has been invaded , attacked , besieged , encircled , bombed ,(and bombed again by the IRA) but continued conquering . Or continued on through it all . Couldve been written about Ireland . He usually brings out the Uniomn Jack when playing this song , but brought out the Tricolor in Ireland . Its about a girl too for whoever wants it to be about a girl . But girls dont have Brigantine sails . (British sails) |
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| The Stone Roses – Waterfall Lyrics | 12 years ago |
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" chimes sing sunday morn " a herald of RESSURECTION . easter sunday / new beginning "todays the day to steal what she could never own ".....I think means ,SIMPLY means to TAKE BACK her LIFE , something she didnt OWN until she was RESURRECTED . ( and to leave ) and the rest is simply describing this NEW DEPARTURE / ressurection / liberation / freedom / ENLIGHTENMENT........."see the steeple pines / hills as old as timne " is almost like a ZEN phrase. "seeing" rather than LOOK AT .....direct EXPERIENCE , rather than Discriminative thought . ACID (and mushrooms) have been known for thousands of years to be capable of bringing about an ENLIGHTENMENT or transcendence . Where you see reality with FRESH EYES ("lifting the lids of your eyes" / tell me how it feels" / "so good to have equalised" / REAL-ised. "stands on shifting sands " ........the ZEN truth of ever-changing reality. " fills her brigantine sails" .....the winds // nature , which PREVIOUSLY BEFORE LIBERATION would have STUNG her , NOW propel her forward and fill her with life . Same could be said about the subject being BRITAIN itself . Poetry often has several layers of meaning . Reading Into poetry TOO MUCH destroys its effect . Thats why DYLAN NEVER EVER explained his more cryptic lyrics. He always answered by ASKING what it meant to the interviewer . "to the expert there are very few possibilities . To the layman there are many " |
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| The Stone Roses – Waterfall Lyrics | 12 years ago |
| its BRIGANTINE sails . not rickety sails . | |
| The Stone Roses – Waterfall Lyrics | 12 years ago |
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So BRIGANTINE , simply means BRITISH . I think your delving TOO DEEP here . "the steeple pines" are simply pine trees . its simply references to LIBERATION , both of Britain and the "girl" / the "she", and the MIND in general . " Now your at the wheel , tell me how does it feel " is much the same as DYLANS " now that your at the top , tell me where your at " ......(like a rolling stone , cant remember the exact phrase , but much the same )....Now that your free liberated , in control , how does it feel ? |
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| The Stone Roses – Waterfall Lyrics | 12 years ago |
| "BRIGATINE SAILS" ........the Brigantes were a celtic tribe in belgium , britain and Ireland which gave its name to BRITAIN (wasnt PRYDEIN as in king arthur, the romans and future academics didnt want to give the sorese BRIGANTES to Britain , because it also gave its name to BRIGANDS . | |
| Bob Dylan – Changing of the Guards Lyrics | 13 years ago |
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16 years since his firts album to this one . 16 years in "the market place " 16 years CRUSADING (banners ) nietsche....thus spoke zarathustra ...zarathustra enters the market place after years of isolation and proclaims that "we have killed god " |
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| Bob Dylan – Changing of the Guards Lyrics | 13 years ago |
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what exactlyb is a "dog soldier " ? i read in wiki that they were indians , but i always thought it had a wider meaning. |
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| Bob Dylan – Changing of the Guards Lyrics | 13 years ago |
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16 years crusading ( i meant). if anyone knows the history of original christianity and jesuss relation to magdalene , prory of sion etc and the johanite churches , you can see a relation although with a stretch of the imagination . not talking about da vinci code crap , but the order of sion were a genuine order , the johannite churches and southern french heretics / cathars , templars and freemasons kept the original christianity alive . ( thats why they were heretics ) the grand master of the order de notre dame de sion was called the nautonnier ( captain , navigator ). the 16 years , was dylans time spend so far " crusading " ( 16 banners ) at the place where the good shepherd (jesus ) grieves ( contemplation /enlightenment / philosophy ). "they shaved her head " .....branded her a prositute . torn between jupiter and apollo is totally consistant with the introduction of the hellenised mystery religions introduced to israel ( of which christianity was one ). renegade priests and witches refers to the orthodox church which defiled marys name and took her honours ( his flowers ) and gave them away ( to virgin mary perhaps ).look up black madonna heresy ...ebony face / black face. Dylan refers to mary magdalene in more than one song . and sarah (dylans wife ) was mary magdalene daughter by jesus. btw. sarah dylan is supposedly the most serenaded woman in history after helen of troy due to his songs. if you dont know anything about original christianity and the mystery philosopies, and the idea that magdalene was jesuss "consort" then this will be rubbish to you. if you are familiar with it , it comes together a lot more , such as rolling rock....jesus tomb (symbolic tomb, ritual of death +rebirth , which happened to all the mystery god/men and any initiates, even now in freemasonry ). did i mention in last reply that magdal means tower in hebrew . magdaleder = tower of the flock or watchtower of the flock. BUT either way dylan was influenced by rimbaud and baudelaire...as far as i remember ,they were known for the poetic sound and rhythym of their works more than the actual meaning . So ,even though no one knows what the lyrics mean , they are still high poetry, the words are just pregnant with meaning , ANY meaning. So, to know what the lyrics really refer to destroys their magic , thats why dylan always refused to explain lyrics. |
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| Bob Dylan – Changing of the Guards Lyrics | 13 years ago |
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apparently is was 16 years since dylan had released his first and became famous . 16 year long career......16 years crsading. where the good shepherd grieves .......the subject of enlightenment or philosophy fortune calls = tarrot to the market place ....i believe is a reference to zarathustra (thus spoke ..) where zarathustra enters the market place after isolation and claims that "we have killed god " she...where she was born near the tower....i believe refers to mary magdalene....magdal means tower (in hebrew i think/ maybe greek ) dylan used to attend the festival in saintes maries de la maires, in france where the locals celebrate the 3 marys (magdalene ) and SARAH the eqyptian coming ashore in france. the gypsies (name derives from egypt ) throng there each year(along with their tarrot cards. "EBONY FACE " mary magdalene is associated with the song of songs in old testament and described as "dark and swarthy / black . |
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