Nothing to do with love, and almost nothing to do with comunism, it's the perception os the US, the country where she grew at:
From what a see it's about the relationship between Europe and the US ("US"). They (Europe) give them the Statue of Liberty wich is now banalised by tourists.
Europeans always say they have years of experience (history, old democracies, old republics) in comparison to Americans which "they give a talking to" because they see the US as too agressive to other countries.
Opposed to the US ppl in Europe wear scarves ALL THE TIME.
But the part that makes me think of it the most is the part that says "the sculptor's mama sends regards". The Statue of Liberty was made after Augusta Charlotte Bartholdi... THE SCULPTOR'S MAMA...
Then again going to the more communist/socialist (or even modern European, if you will) view, some aspects of the US and it's culture are seen as a den of thieves and it's contagious because many other countries try to copy them
I'll try to expand more to the idea at some point.
I wondered about the "Us"/"US" relationship, I'm glad you mentioned it.
I wondered about the "Us"/"US" relationship, I'm glad you mentioned it.
"Den of thieves" is a argument that you could use to describe basically any government so I think it's probably feasible to interpret either way.
"Den of thieves" is a argument that you could use to describe basically any government so I think it's probably feasible to interpret either way.
I'd assume that it would be more likely that "Us" refers to a formerly prominent leader that is being heavily criticized by the rest of the world ("they"), a leader that has a statue and a city named in his honor.
I'd assume that it would be more likely that "Us" refers to a formerly prominent leader that is being heavily criticized by the rest of the world ("they"), a leader that has a statue and a city named in his honor.
It may be even more likely that "Us" is a general term for the group of people associated with this leader-maybe those who supported a form of government no longer popular (communism/socialism/etc). "Our parts" refers to the instruments of government: people, institutions, ideologies, etc. They're slightly used but there are new ones to replace them which, ironically, are used for "slave labor."
The "pages" could refer to the pages of history or the political writings of philosophers like Confucius, Plato, Hobbes, Locke, Marx, Jefferson, etc. They hold all the answers but still, goverments are corrupt and people are abused.
I would guess that the point, in any case, is that political criticisms and ideologies are rarely as simple as "Your government is bad, let us fix it with this new form of government." People will always be abused regardless of the specific form that government takes because people in power are usually corrupt (a den of thieves).
If this is correct, its an interesting perspective that I can appreciate (but don't totally agree with).
@nelsito I really enjoyed this particular interpretation about the perspective US and us, as I am teaching it today to a class of Speaker of Foreign Languages. Thank you!
@nelsito I really enjoyed this particular interpretation about the perspective US and us, as I am teaching it today to a class of Speaker of Foreign Languages. Thank you!
Nothing to do with love, and almost nothing to do with comunism, it's the perception os the US, the country where she grew at:
From what a see it's about the relationship between Europe and the US ("US"). They (Europe) give them the Statue of Liberty wich is now banalised by tourists.
Europeans always say they have years of experience (history, old democracies, old republics) in comparison to Americans which "they give a talking to" because they see the US as too agressive to other countries.
Opposed to the US ppl in Europe wear scarves ALL THE TIME.
But the part that makes me think of it the most is the part that says "the sculptor's mama sends regards". The Statue of Liberty was made after Augusta Charlotte Bartholdi... THE SCULPTOR'S MAMA...
Then again going to the more communist/socialist (or even modern European, if you will) view, some aspects of the US and it's culture are seen as a den of thieves and it's contagious because many other countries try to copy them
I'll try to expand more to the idea at some point.
Best regards
I wondered about the "Us"/"US" relationship, I'm glad you mentioned it.
I wondered about the "Us"/"US" relationship, I'm glad you mentioned it.
"Den of thieves" is a argument that you could use to describe basically any government so I think it's probably feasible to interpret either way.
"Den of thieves" is a argument that you could use to describe basically any government so I think it's probably feasible to interpret either way.
I'd assume that it would be more likely that "Us" refers to a formerly prominent leader that is being heavily criticized by the rest of the world ("they"), a leader that has a statue and a city named in his honor.
I'd assume that it would be more likely that "Us" refers to a formerly prominent leader that is being heavily criticized by the rest of the world ("they"), a leader that has a statue and a city named in his honor.
It may be even more likely that "Us" is a general term for the group of people associated with this leader-maybe those who supported a form of government no longer popular (communism/socialism/etc). "Our parts" refers to the instruments of government: people, institutions, ideologies, etc. They're slightly used but there are new ones to replace them which, ironically, are used for "slave labor."
The "pages" could refer to the pages of history or the political writings of philosophers like Confucius, Plato, Hobbes, Locke, Marx, Jefferson, etc. They hold all the answers but still, goverments are corrupt and people are abused.
I would guess that the point, in any case, is that political criticisms and ideologies are rarely as simple as "Your government is bad, let us fix it with this new form of government." People will always be abused regardless of the specific form that government takes because people in power are usually corrupt (a den of thieves).
If this is correct, its an interesting perspective that I can appreciate (but don't totally agree with).
@nelsito I really enjoyed this particular interpretation about the perspective US and us, as I am teaching it today to a class of Speaker of Foreign Languages. Thank you!
@nelsito I really enjoyed this particular interpretation about the perspective US and us, as I am teaching it today to a class of Speaker of Foreign Languages. Thank you!