I can identify with Morrisey's dilemma here; although in my case it was my great grandparents who were Irish catholic immigrants, I still feel the connection with my heritage which sometimes puts me at odds with the country of my birth, England. But who exactly are the English? When the Romans came, it was populated by Ancient Britons (Celts), and was later overrun and controlled by Angles and Saxons from an area which is now North Germany. Then came the Vikings from Sweden, Norway and Denmark, who took their chunk of it and became part of the population. Then the Normans who came from Scandinavia by way of northern France having picked up some French blood on the way. So there you have it; Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, France... my roots are actually closer to England than those of the people who are currently waving the Flag of St George. But Morrisey is talking about more recent events, i.e the subjugation and attempted genocide inflicted upon the native Irish by the English, embodied in Cromwell who was the single worst perpetrator of such crimes in Anglo-Irish history. I find comfort in the fact that my ancestor Hugh O'Neill was a superior general who inflicted a humiliating defeat upon Cromwell at Clonmel, and Cromwell's exhumed head displayed on a spike at Westminster for 25 years was a far more fitting monument than any pigeon-shit covered statue outside Parliament.
@Judd33333 Excuse me, your pathetic 'Who are the English' little uneducated attempt at polite disrespect had been tried before, and failed just as spectacularly. The English, are the English. We reside in England, descended over the centuries from Anglo Saxons and were still here, despite your laughable attempts to try and create some case for the English nation not existing lol. You cite Norman conquest and Roman invasion etc... yes, correct, what's your point? Irish are mainly derived from Spaniards if you want to go that far hack, bit just what is fuelling your meaningless dissertation on stone age...
@Judd33333 Excuse me, your pathetic 'Who are the English' little uneducated attempt at polite disrespect had been tried before, and failed just as spectacularly. The English, are the English. We reside in England, descended over the centuries from Anglo Saxons and were still here, despite your laughable attempts to try and create some case for the English nation not existing lol. You cite Norman conquest and Roman invasion etc... yes, correct, what's your point? Irish are mainly derived from Spaniards if you want to go that far hack, bit just what is fuelling your meaningless dissertation on stone age life?
The way you try and undermine anyone English with this rubbish just makes us even more proud. The St George Cross (go on, say he was Turkish... and Sy Patrick was Welsh so what?) will fly forever and feeble fragile bitter idiots like you can pretend to be personal aggrieved by Cromwell and the loss of sone spuds all you like but you'll never erase us, try as you might. Irish mongrel race is so watered down also that you don't have a leg to stand on, but do crack on as I love how wound up you insular little haters get x
I can identify with Morrisey's dilemma here; although in my case it was my great grandparents who were Irish catholic immigrants, I still feel the connection with my heritage which sometimes puts me at odds with the country of my birth, England. But who exactly are the English? When the Romans came, it was populated by Ancient Britons (Celts), and was later overrun and controlled by Angles and Saxons from an area which is now North Germany. Then came the Vikings from Sweden, Norway and Denmark, who took their chunk of it and became part of the population. Then the Normans who came from Scandinavia by way of northern France having picked up some French blood on the way. So there you have it; Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, France... my roots are actually closer to England than those of the people who are currently waving the Flag of St George. But Morrisey is talking about more recent events, i.e the subjugation and attempted genocide inflicted upon the native Irish by the English, embodied in Cromwell who was the single worst perpetrator of such crimes in Anglo-Irish history. I find comfort in the fact that my ancestor Hugh O'Neill was a superior general who inflicted a humiliating defeat upon Cromwell at Clonmel, and Cromwell's exhumed head displayed on a spike at Westminster for 25 years was a far more fitting monument than any pigeon-shit covered statue outside Parliament.
@Judd33333 Excuse me, your pathetic 'Who are the English' little uneducated attempt at polite disrespect had been tried before, and failed just as spectacularly. The English, are the English. We reside in England, descended over the centuries from Anglo Saxons and were still here, despite your laughable attempts to try and create some case for the English nation not existing lol. You cite Norman conquest and Roman invasion etc... yes, correct, what's your point? Irish are mainly derived from Spaniards if you want to go that far hack, bit just what is fuelling your meaningless dissertation on stone age...
@Judd33333 Excuse me, your pathetic 'Who are the English' little uneducated attempt at polite disrespect had been tried before, and failed just as spectacularly. The English, are the English. We reside in England, descended over the centuries from Anglo Saxons and were still here, despite your laughable attempts to try and create some case for the English nation not existing lol. You cite Norman conquest and Roman invasion etc... yes, correct, what's your point? Irish are mainly derived from Spaniards if you want to go that far hack, bit just what is fuelling your meaningless dissertation on stone age life? The way you try and undermine anyone English with this rubbish just makes us even more proud. The St George Cross (go on, say he was Turkish... and Sy Patrick was Welsh so what?) will fly forever and feeble fragile bitter idiots like you can pretend to be personal aggrieved by Cromwell and the loss of sone spuds all you like but you'll never erase us, try as you might. Irish mongrel race is so watered down also that you don't have a leg to stand on, but do crack on as I love how wound up you insular little haters get x