Okay, this song is starting to make sense to me, it is in fact about the Armenian genocide, but it's riddled with metaphors and allusions. The first verse can be interpreted literally about being about a suicidal person hiding the fact they are self harming, but in the broader sense it gives the feeling of being in a hurry, being in an emergency, but you are still caught up in doing little mundane tasks, liking putting on makeup and looking for car keys. I think this is about people panicking, not realizing that they are about to be forced away from their homes forever if they don't die. The heavy rifting sounds remnant of a military attack. Maybe time the verse is literal, the second time it's the day of the attack, signified by the screamed DI
Now, for the chorus, I think the one, suicide isn't literal just as it wasn't literal last verse, and by "I" he means "we". I think self-righteous suicide refers to general martyrdom, not suicide bombing. See, with martyrdom one is responsible for their death because they refuse to compromise their faith, and it's self righteous because the matyr believes they are doing a righteous deed. Now, the importance of I being we is that it extends it to the whole Armenian people. Now, the genocide was an ethic cleansing delivered by the Ottoman, and like most ethnic tension their is difference in religion, here the Ottoman being Muslim and the Armenians being christian. That's what makes the genocide a martyrdom. The angels deserving to die refers to all the innocent lives that were shed during the tragedy, the verse appears to be about a priest or someone asking how such a tragedy could happen to such a righteous people? Also, the deserving to die part might reflect the lack of attention given to the massacre.
With the next verse the idea of martyrdom is reiterated by alluding to Jesus's crucifixion. The "why have you forsaken me" part refers to how even though the Armenians believed they were righteous they found no deliverance.
In the end I think the song can be summed up by saying that the Armenians were killed for their beliefs just like the Jews were in the holocaust, but no one gave a damn about the Armenians. The Turks continue to deny the tragedy to this day.
Bro.
You are on some kind of amazing level. This helped me so much. I mean, I got the literal interpretation of suicide in the first verse, but you, sir/madam, seriously delved here.
To show my gratitude, you get a cookie. ^_^
Bro.
You are on some kind of amazing level. This helped me so much. I mean, I got the literal interpretation of suicide in the first verse, but you, sir/madam, seriously delved here.
To show my gratitude, you get a cookie. ^_^
@Ganondox Disagree. Not genocide, this song is about Suicide - this was made clear in interview and was even the original title.Genocide and suicide are not concepts that you'd put together - martyrdom yes, but thats not what genocide is about at all. There is no choice there. Also I think to read every song of theirs (or anyone) through the lens of their ethnicity is problematic. Armenians can write about genocide, but they also don't have to do so every single time you know. It's a limiting way to look at the work of any artist.
@Ganondox Disagree. Not genocide, this song is about Suicide - this was made clear in interview and was even the original title.Genocide and suicide are not concepts that you'd put together - martyrdom yes, but thats not what genocide is about at all. There is no choice there. Also I think to read every song of theirs (or anyone) through the lens of their ethnicity is problematic. Armenians can write about genocide, but they also don't have to do so every single time you know. It's a limiting way to look at the work of any artist.
Did you even read my comment beyond the first line? I addressed all the stuff about suicide. Anyway, this song was clearly meant to be read through the eyes on Armenian ethnicity considering the Armenian flag is thrown during the music video, and some of it's lyrics were allegedly taken from a poem by Father Armeni.
Did you even read my comment beyond the first line? I addressed all the stuff about suicide. Anyway, this song was clearly meant to be read through the eyes on Armenian ethnicity considering the Armenian flag is thrown during the music video, and some of it's lyrics were allegedly taken from a poem by Father Armeni.
You can disagree, but you also be plain wrong. When you're commenting on things I've already addressed as if I didn't know about it, you're just being ignorant.
You can disagree, but you also be plain wrong. When you're commenting on things I've already addressed as if I didn't know about it, you're just being ignorant.
And I explained why. By the way not every song and video are parallel. Song can be about one thing when written and video can have a different vision/idea. See Bjork's Hunter, which many people think is about Ricardo Lopez because of its video but the song was not written about him (as explained by Bjork herself).
And I explained why. By the way not every song and video are parallel. Song can be about one thing when written and video can have a different vision/idea. See Bjork's Hunter, which many people think is about Ricardo Lopez because of its video but the song was not written about him (as explained by Bjork herself).
Also chill, not everyone has to agree with you. You down voted this the moment I commented, like a knee jerk. You need to accept not everyone will agree with you about everything. I was not disrespectful to you yet your only explanation for why someone might disagree is because they didn't read your comment beyond the first line. It's just a song interpretation site and I'm a stranger you don't need to take it so serious. Good night!
Also chill, not everyone has to agree with you. You down voted this the moment I commented, like a knee jerk. You need to accept not everyone will agree with you about everything. I was not disrespectful to you yet your only explanation for why someone might disagree is because they didn't read your comment beyond the first line. It's just a song interpretation site and I'm a stranger you don't need to take it so serious. Good night!
I am not engaging with this any more - you don't know who I am. I could very well be Armenian and a scholar with a Phd or a friend of someone in the band... But you call me ignorant because I don't agree with you. (More than one of the above is true by the way).
I am not engaging with this any more - you don't know who I am. I could very well be Armenian and a scholar with a Phd or a friend of someone in the band... But you call me ignorant because I don't agree with you. (More than one of the above is true by the way).
I'm not downvoting your comments because I disagree, it's because you are being aggressive and attacking me based on ignorance. The one who needs to chill is the one who made four comments in a row expressing frustration about being downvoted.
I'm not downvoting your comments because I disagree, it's because you are being aggressive and attacking me based on ignorance. The one who needs to chill is the one who made four comments in a row expressing frustration about being downvoted.
@Ganondox This is the best interpretation I've read about this song. It covers all the bases and actually makes sense. I always assumed it was about a suicide bomber, but that didn't address all the lyrics, just a couple lines.
@Ganondox This is the best interpretation I've read about this song. It covers all the bases and actually makes sense. I always assumed it was about a suicide bomber, but that didn't address all the lyrics, just a couple lines.
This entire song as a whole makes sense when viewed through the lens of the Armenian Genocide. Obviously not every song they make is about their heritage, however, they are known for being "political" in some songs. And let's face it, this is one of their most powerful songs.
This entire song as a whole makes sense when viewed through the lens of the Armenian Genocide. Obviously not every song they make is about their heritage, however, they are known for being "political" in some songs. And let's face it, this is one of their most powerful songs.
@Ganondox And how you saw any resemblance to the Armenian genocide out of this is beyond me.
@Ganondox And how you saw any resemblance to the Armenian genocide out of this is beyond me.
In, my, self righteous suicide
In, my, self righteous suicide
Is oxygen moronic statement in light of the over all context. The written knows this.
Is oxygen moronic statement in light of the over all context. The written knows this.
The Armenian Holocaust was responsible for about 1.5 million deaths where the Jewish Holocaust about 6 million European Jews and 17 million victims. Hitler almost ruled the World. It's not that no one cared it was the magnitude of it. There are genocides going on today. The Holocaust was noted because it was the worst one known to man. That one might stick out in my mind more because it directly effected me in the sense I never knew my grandfather who was a Japanese POW...
"In an interview, Daron Malakian explained, "The song is about how we are regarded differently depending on how we pass. Everyone deserves to die. Like, if I were now to die from drug abuse, they might say I deserved it because I abused dangerous drugs. Hence the line, 'I cry when angels deserve to die'. The lyric passages 'Father, into your hands I commend my spirit' and 'why have you forsaken me?' are a reference to Jesus' death on the cross, as, according to the Gospels, it was one of the seven things Jesus said while dying."
The record company made them change the word suicide to self righteous suicide. Oxymoronic describes self righteous suicide. Sharp but dull seeing how you don't know the term and are to lazy to look it up. You are stupid and just plain moronic. lmao... This band is Armenian American... You just wrote that about the Armenian holocaust that happened in 1915-23 so you can suck a penis. lmao
The Sultan of the Ottoman Empire was a Muslim who had absolute power. The only thing you had right was they went after Christians and Turkey denies it BUT that fact has nothing to do with this song as I have proven you wrong again.
@KingTrips as if they could say that they meant Muslim genocide againt Christianity. Considering Muslimphilic hysteria in Western world. Your points are pathetic and don't stand the criticism. Everything in the song points at Armenian genocide, even Serj in his songs and interviews later pointed that he always wanted and tried to raise awareness about this genocide. I understand and respect other's opinions, until they try to shove it in everyone's mouth. But you somehow are being an angry idiot who cant stand different opinions and suggests to suck a pеnis if somebody disagrees. How about you do it instead?...
@KingTrips as if they could say that they meant Muslim genocide againt Christianity. Considering Muslimphilic hysteria in Western world. Your points are pathetic and don't stand the criticism. Everything in the song points at Armenian genocide, even Serj in his songs and interviews later pointed that he always wanted and tried to raise awareness about this genocide. I understand and respect other's opinions, until they try to shove it in everyone's mouth. But you somehow are being an angry idiot who cant stand different opinions and suggests to suck a pеnis if somebody disagrees. How about you do it instead? Would serve your personality well.
Okay, this song is starting to make sense to me, it is in fact about the Armenian genocide, but it's riddled with metaphors and allusions. The first verse can be interpreted literally about being about a suicidal person hiding the fact they are self harming, but in the broader sense it gives the feeling of being in a hurry, being in an emergency, but you are still caught up in doing little mundane tasks, liking putting on makeup and looking for car keys. I think this is about people panicking, not realizing that they are about to be forced away from their homes forever if they don't die. The heavy rifting sounds remnant of a military attack. Maybe time the verse is literal, the second time it's the day of the attack, signified by the screamed DI
Now, for the chorus, I think the one, suicide isn't literal just as it wasn't literal last verse, and by "I" he means "we". I think self-righteous suicide refers to general martyrdom, not suicide bombing. See, with martyrdom one is responsible for their death because they refuse to compromise their faith, and it's self righteous because the matyr believes they are doing a righteous deed. Now, the importance of I being we is that it extends it to the whole Armenian people. Now, the genocide was an ethic cleansing delivered by the Ottoman, and like most ethnic tension their is difference in religion, here the Ottoman being Muslim and the Armenians being christian. That's what makes the genocide a martyrdom. The angels deserving to die refers to all the innocent lives that were shed during the tragedy, the verse appears to be about a priest or someone asking how such a tragedy could happen to such a righteous people? Also, the deserving to die part might reflect the lack of attention given to the massacre.
With the next verse the idea of martyrdom is reiterated by alluding to Jesus's crucifixion. The "why have you forsaken me" part refers to how even though the Armenians believed they were righteous they found no deliverance.
In the end I think the song can be summed up by saying that the Armenians were killed for their beliefs just like the Jews were in the holocaust, but no one gave a damn about the Armenians. The Turks continue to deny the tragedy to this day.
Bro. You are on some kind of amazing level. This helped me so much. I mean, I got the literal interpretation of suicide in the first verse, but you, sir/madam, seriously delved here. To show my gratitude, you get a cookie. ^_^
Bro. You are on some kind of amazing level. This helped me so much. I mean, I got the literal interpretation of suicide in the first verse, but you, sir/madam, seriously delved here. To show my gratitude, you get a cookie. ^_^
Outstanding! I did not make the connection to Serg being Armenian by descent until you posted this. Thanks!
Outstanding! I did not make the connection to Serg being Armenian by descent until you posted this. Thanks!
@Ganondox Disagree. Not genocide, this song is about Suicide - this was made clear in interview and was even the original title.Genocide and suicide are not concepts that you'd put together - martyrdom yes, but thats not what genocide is about at all. There is no choice there. Also I think to read every song of theirs (or anyone) through the lens of their ethnicity is problematic. Armenians can write about genocide, but they also don't have to do so every single time you know. It's a limiting way to look at the work of any artist.
@Ganondox Disagree. Not genocide, this song is about Suicide - this was made clear in interview and was even the original title.Genocide and suicide are not concepts that you'd put together - martyrdom yes, but thats not what genocide is about at all. There is no choice there. Also I think to read every song of theirs (or anyone) through the lens of their ethnicity is problematic. Armenians can write about genocide, but they also don't have to do so every single time you know. It's a limiting way to look at the work of any artist.
@blackaliss
@blackaliss
Did you even read my comment beyond the first line? I addressed all the stuff about suicide. Anyway, this song was clearly meant to be read through the eyes on Armenian ethnicity considering the Armenian flag is thrown during the music video, and some of it's lyrics were allegedly taken from a poem by Father Armeni.
Did you even read my comment beyond the first line? I addressed all the stuff about suicide. Anyway, this song was clearly meant to be read through the eyes on Armenian ethnicity considering the Armenian flag is thrown during the music video, and some of it's lyrics were allegedly taken from a poem by Father Armeni.
@Ganondox Yes I did read it and I said I disagree.... wow
@Ganondox Yes I did read it and I said I disagree.... wow
@blackaliss
@blackaliss
You can disagree, but you also be plain wrong. When you're commenting on things I've already addressed as if I didn't know about it, you're just being ignorant.
You can disagree, but you also be plain wrong. When you're commenting on things I've already addressed as if I didn't know about it, you're just being ignorant.
And I explained why. By the way not every song and video are parallel. Song can be about one thing when written and video can have a different vision/idea. See Bjork's Hunter, which many people think is about Ricardo Lopez because of its video but the song was not written about him (as explained by Bjork herself).
And I explained why. By the way not every song and video are parallel. Song can be about one thing when written and video can have a different vision/idea. See Bjork's Hunter, which many people think is about Ricardo Lopez because of its video but the song was not written about him (as explained by Bjork herself).
Also chill, not everyone has to agree with you. You down voted this the moment I commented, like a knee jerk. You need to accept not everyone will agree with you about everything. I was not disrespectful to you yet your only explanation for why someone might disagree is because they didn't read your comment beyond the first line. It's just a song interpretation site and I'm a stranger you don't need to take it so serious. Good night!
Also chill, not everyone has to agree with you. You down voted this the moment I commented, like a knee jerk. You need to accept not everyone will agree with you about everything. I was not disrespectful to you yet your only explanation for why someone might disagree is because they didn't read your comment beyond the first line. It's just a song interpretation site and I'm a stranger you don't need to take it so serious. Good night!
You can down vote as much as you want I did not find your arguments convincing that's not gonna change. Just chill seriously wow..
You can down vote as much as you want I did not find your arguments convincing that's not gonna change. Just chill seriously wow..
I am not engaging with this any more - you don't know who I am. I could very well be Armenian and a scholar with a Phd or a friend of someone in the band... But you call me ignorant because I don't agree with you. (More than one of the above is true by the way).
I am not engaging with this any more - you don't know who I am. I could very well be Armenian and a scholar with a Phd or a friend of someone in the band... But you call me ignorant because I don't agree with you. (More than one of the above is true by the way).
@blackaliss
@blackaliss
I'm not downvoting your comments because I disagree, it's because you are being aggressive and attacking me based on ignorance. The one who needs to chill is the one who made four comments in a row expressing frustration about being downvoted.
I'm not downvoting your comments because I disagree, it's because you are being aggressive and attacking me based on ignorance. The one who needs to chill is the one who made four comments in a row expressing frustration about being downvoted.
@Ganondox This is the best interpretation I've read about this song. It covers all the bases and actually makes sense. I always assumed it was about a suicide bomber, but that didn't address all the lyrics, just a couple lines.
@Ganondox This is the best interpretation I've read about this song. It covers all the bases and actually makes sense. I always assumed it was about a suicide bomber, but that didn't address all the lyrics, just a couple lines.
This entire song as a whole makes sense when viewed through the lens of the Armenian Genocide. Obviously not every song they make is about their heritage, however, they are known for being "political" in some songs. And let's face it, this is one of their most powerful songs.
This entire song as a whole makes sense when viewed through the lens of the Armenian Genocide. Obviously not every song they make is about their heritage, however, they are known for being "political" in some songs. And let's face it, this is one of their most powerful songs.
@Ganondox And how you saw any resemblance to the Armenian genocide out of this is beyond me.
@Ganondox And how you saw any resemblance to the Armenian genocide out of this is beyond me.
In, my, self righteous suicide
In, my, self righteous suicide
Is oxygen moronic statement in light of the over all context. The written knows this.
Is oxygen moronic statement in light of the over all context. The written knows this.
The Armenian Holocaust was responsible for about 1.5 million deaths where the Jewish Holocaust about 6 million European Jews and 17 million victims. Hitler almost ruled the World. It's not that no one cared it was the magnitude of it. There are genocides going on today. The Holocaust was noted because it was the worst one known to man. That one might stick out in my mind more because it directly effected me in the sense I never knew my grandfather who was a Japanese POW...
@Ganondox
@Ganondox
"In an interview, Daron Malakian explained, "The song is about how we are regarded differently depending on how we pass. Everyone deserves to die. Like, if I were now to die from drug abuse, they might say I deserved it because I abused dangerous drugs. Hence the line, 'I cry when angels deserve to die'. The lyric passages 'Father, into your hands I commend my spirit' and 'why have you forsaken me?' are a reference to Jesus' death on the cross, as, according to the Gospels, it was one of the seven things Jesus said while dying."
The record company made them change the word suicide to self righteous suicide. Oxymoronic describes self righteous suicide. Sharp but dull seeing how you don't know the term and are to lazy to look it up. You are stupid and just plain moronic. lmao... This band is Armenian American... You just wrote that about the Armenian holocaust that happened in 1915-23 so you can suck a penis. lmao
The Sultan of the Ottoman Empire was a Muslim who had absolute power. The only thing you had right was they went after Christians and Turkey denies it BUT that fact has nothing to do with this song as I have proven you wrong again.
@KingTrips as if they could say that they meant Muslim genocide againt Christianity. Considering Muslimphilic hysteria in Western world. Your points are pathetic and don't stand the criticism. Everything in the song points at Armenian genocide, even Serj in his songs and interviews later pointed that he always wanted and tried to raise awareness about this genocide. I understand and respect other's opinions, until they try to shove it in everyone's mouth. But you somehow are being an angry idiot who cant stand different opinions and suggests to suck a pеnis if somebody disagrees. How about you do it instead?...
@KingTrips as if they could say that they meant Muslim genocide againt Christianity. Considering Muslimphilic hysteria in Western world. Your points are pathetic and don't stand the criticism. Everything in the song points at Armenian genocide, even Serj in his songs and interviews later pointed that he always wanted and tried to raise awareness about this genocide. I understand and respect other's opinions, until they try to shove it in everyone's mouth. But you somehow are being an angry idiot who cant stand different opinions and suggests to suck a pеnis if somebody disagrees. How about you do it instead? Would serve your personality well.