That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard this week. Maybe this month, maybe even this year.
How do you interpret this song as being about abortion? It is far from obvious how you came to this conclusion, unless you are projecting your own worldview onto Bowie's song (a worldview which, in light of your comment, it is unlikely Bowie shares).
Are the "sons" the unborn babies? If so, then why do they "rise for a year or two then make war," "search through their one-inch thoughts then decide it couldn't be done?" Or are the "sons" the abortion-givers? If so, then the questions still stand; furthermore, why do they "make love only once but dream and dream," or "never die they just go to sleep one day?"
And for god's sake... why would Bowie be singing to a baby, "let's find another way in" and "let's take another way down"?
Let me remind you that Bowie wrote this in 1977. It is far more likely that "let's take another way down" refers to coming off of a drug high, and that many of the gloomy verses about Sons of the Silent Age refer obliquely, as if from a dream, to various men on various drugs.
And of course this was right after Bowie started to clean up, himself. In 1977, Bowie would have been in Germany and decreasing his cocaine usage after a long time spent using all kinds of drugs. The previous year, he had overdosed a number of times.
At the time he was also deeply interested in mythology and the occult. The song Quicksand, for instance, written in 1971, was full of references to the Golden Dawn and metaphysical notions Bowie himself had synthesized.
So, abortion? Totally not. What then? I don't really know. Why not take it at face value? These men with blank looks, notebooks, crying and making love only once, rising for a year or two, "make war" whatever that means, then turning around and saying "it" couldn't be done--whatever that is, be it the war, or peace, or world government, some high achievement or plan of some sort. These characters and possibilities are interesting enough without foisting upon them some banal idea about abortion.
I can understand why you think I am projecting my views onto a David Bowie song. The thing is that abortion is a topic I have had a very hard time deciding. I honestly still don't know exactly how I feel about it. The only thing I know is that an abortion should never be considered a "triumph in woman rights and liberty". It should be considered an unfortunate thing that could, and should have been avoided (cases other than health issues and rape) but wasn't. It isn't the best thing, but it hardly makes them murderers. People make mistakes.
Anyways knowing that, it is important to remember this song came out in a time that really, who knows what view David Bowie had? This song was only released a year and a half after the Christian song he wrote Word on a Wing. I'm not trying to say Bowie is pro-life. I think really, absolutely nobody can have any clue what Bowie's stance on abortion was in 1977. Hell, he might not even be able to tell you.
Sorry for all of the setup. I'll try and explain why I think this is about abortion. Also, remember I had no idea then all at once the meaning seemed "obvious" to me. So it wasn't the result of any agenda.
With this being said, I'm going to give you my interpretation of song in my next post.
I agree with you about abortions. It should only happen in the case of health problems or rape. Some women still choose to keep the baby even in those cases, and that is a personal choice that should be thought carefully. But in any other cases, It is not something that should be considered as a good thing. In most cases, a woman regrets terribly having done it afterwards, or years later.
I agree with you about abortions. It should only happen in the case of health problems or rape. Some women still choose to keep the baby even in those cases, and that is a personal choice that should be thought carefully. But in any other cases, It is not something that should be considered as a good thing. In most cases, a woman regrets terribly having done it afterwards, or years later.
To be clear, I don’t mean the song is about abortion the political issue. It’s about aborted existences and by extension, existence itself. The chorus is the essence of existence singing to the baby in the womb ready to be aborted.
To be clear, I don’t mean the song is about abortion the political issue. It’s about aborted existences and by extension, existence itself. The chorus is the essence of existence singing to the baby in the womb ready to be aborted.
Look at the format of the song. Two stanzas and one chorus. The first stanza is 7 normal lines, and three repeats of “Sons of the Silent Age”. The second stanza is 5 normal lines, and three repeats of Sons of the Silent Age.
Sons of the Silent age = aborted existences.
Look at the format of the song. Two stanzas and one chorus. The first stanza is 7 normal lines, and three repeats of “Sons of the Silent Age”. The second stanza is 5 normal lines, and three repeats of Sons of the Silent Age.
Sons of the Silent age = aborted existences.
The first words in the first 5 normal lines in the first stanza are all related words, but directly conflicting with each other. “Stand”, “sit”, “lay”, “pace”, and “rise”. They are all mutually exclusive. (stand and rise are in the context they are used) So while the whole stanza is talking about sons of the silent age, since these 5 words are mutually exclusive each line is talking about different groups of sons of the silent age. In other words, all the different kinds of lives all the aborted existence would’ve had. You have to notice things like this. Bowie expertly sings the stanzas all together so you assume each line in the stanza builds on each other, but they are completely and utterly separate. He sings them all together to express how existence all blurs together.
Look at each of these 5 lines. Each one is a one-line summary of a certain lifestyle/presence on this planet.
Stand on platforms blank looks and note books (in charge, but oblivious)
Sit in back rows of city limits (people SO close, but still isolated from society/people)
Lay in bed coming and going on easy terms (either apathetic people, or people who would have had aborted an existence had they not been aborted themselves)
Pace their rooms like a cell's dimensions (Thinkers! They’re the thinkers!)
Rise for a year or two then make war (People who die young but make a huge impact.)
The last two lines in the stanza step away from the contemplation of potential livelihoods the aborted would’ve had, and this is specified because they start with words “search” and “then”.
Search through their one inch thoughts
Then decided it couldn’t be done (these last two lines refer to the people depriving existences of existence on this planet.)
Then you have the chorus. The chorus is the essence of existence itself crying out to the baby while it’s in the womb. Existence just isn’t going to let this created conceived human life form be deprived of existence! If it isn’t deemed worthy or lucky enough for Earth then it will find existence in some other way God Damn it!
Baby, I'll never let you go
All I see is all I know
Let's find another way down
(sons of sound and sons of sound)
Baby, baby, I'll never let you down
I can't stand another sound
Let's take another way in (kicking the fucking door open for existence! We’re getting there baby.)
So then you have the final stanza. This time there are only five normal lines. The first words in the first three lines are “listen”, “pick”, and “make”. These again, conflict with each other. You pick someone, or you make something, or you listen to something. These are all mutually exclusive. But they aren’t all related like the first five lines in the first stanza are, so Bowie broke each of the first three lines up with a “sons of the silent age” to make clear that each line was a standalone projection of a potential existence.
Listen to tracks by Sam Therapy and King Dice (no clue what this means, but definitely looks like it could be a one-sentence summary of a livelihood)
Pick up in bars and cry only once (people whose first experience with love is intense and all chips in but when it backfires they cry hard but then never cry again, and instead pick up people in bars instead. In fewer words, people who get their heart broken and give up on love.)
Make love only once but dream and dream (too many interpretations to bother, but you’re lying if you don’t think this looks like a one-sentence summary of a potential lifestyle.)
So finally you have the final two lines in the last stanza. The first stanza got away with only having unrelated words starting off the last two lines since the first 5 normal lines were related. But since the first three lines in this stanza are already unrelated, Bowie had to do more to make it clear the last two lines are a separate concept, so he starts both off with “they”. While the last two lines of the first stanza talk about people depriving the existences of life on Earth, these ones simply talk about how the existence in its earliest form experiences the transformation into nothingness (until it’s given existence again by the essence of existence itself)
They don't walk they just glide in and out of life (they have life so short it’s just a blur)
They never die, they just go to sleep one day (they don’t “die” because they find existence elsewhere. They go to sleep on their existence on this planet)
Now it’s time for the very condensed version. Stanza one: five one-line summaries of potential pathways/presences the aborted existences would’ve had on this planet. And two lines about the decisions for their lives never to take place. Chorus: The essence of existence itself crying out to the about to be aborted fetus in the womb and promising it that it will find existence for it somewhere. Heaven? Another dimension? Recesses of David Bowie’s mind so he can write such sickeningly brilliant music? Stanza two: three one-line summaries of potential pathways the existences would’ve had. And two lines about them experiencing their conversion into temporary nothingness.
@TheHeroicDavidBowie lolololol you're kidding, right?
That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard this week. Maybe this month, maybe even this year.
How do you interpret this song as being about abortion? It is far from obvious how you came to this conclusion, unless you are projecting your own worldview onto Bowie's song (a worldview which, in light of your comment, it is unlikely Bowie shares).
Are the "sons" the unborn babies? If so, then why do they "rise for a year or two then make war," "search through their one-inch thoughts then decide it couldn't be done?" Or are the "sons" the abortion-givers? If so, then the questions still stand; furthermore, why do they "make love only once but dream and dream," or "never die they just go to sleep one day?"
And for god's sake... why would Bowie be singing to a baby, "let's find another way in" and "let's take another way down"?
Let me remind you that Bowie wrote this in 1977. It is far more likely that "let's take another way down" refers to coming off of a drug high, and that many of the gloomy verses about Sons of the Silent Age refer obliquely, as if from a dream, to various men on various drugs.
And of course this was right after Bowie started to clean up, himself. In 1977, Bowie would have been in Germany and decreasing his cocaine usage after a long time spent using all kinds of drugs. The previous year, he had overdosed a number of times.
At the time he was also deeply interested in mythology and the occult. The song Quicksand, for instance, written in 1971, was full of references to the Golden Dawn and metaphysical notions Bowie himself had synthesized.
So, abortion? Totally not. What then? I don't really know. Why not take it at face value? These men with blank looks, notebooks, crying and making love only once, rising for a year or two, "make war" whatever that means, then turning around and saying "it" couldn't be done--whatever that is, be it the war, or peace, or world government, some high achievement or plan of some sort. These characters and possibilities are interesting enough without foisting upon them some banal idea about abortion.
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I can understand why you think I am projecting my views onto a David Bowie song. The thing is that abortion is a topic I have had a very hard time deciding. I honestly still don't know exactly how I feel about it. The only thing I know is that an abortion should never be considered a "triumph in woman rights and liberty". It should be considered an unfortunate thing that could, and should have been avoided (cases other than health issues and rape) but wasn't. It isn't the best thing, but it hardly makes them murderers. People make mistakes.
Anyways knowing that, it is important to remember this song came out in a time that really, who knows what view David Bowie had? This song was only released a year and a half after the Christian song he wrote Word on a Wing. I'm not trying to say Bowie is pro-life. I think really, absolutely nobody can have any clue what Bowie's stance on abortion was in 1977. Hell, he might not even be able to tell you.
Sorry for all of the setup. I'll try and explain why I think this is about abortion. Also, remember I had no idea then all at once the meaning seemed "obvious" to me. So it wasn't the result of any agenda.
With this being said, I'm going to give you my interpretation of song in my next post.
I agree with you about abortions. It should only happen in the case of health problems or rape. Some women still choose to keep the baby even in those cases, and that is a personal choice that should be thought carefully. But in any other cases, It is not something that should be considered as a good thing. In most cases, a woman regrets terribly having done it afterwards, or years later.
I agree with you about abortions. It should only happen in the case of health problems or rape. Some women still choose to keep the baby even in those cases, and that is a personal choice that should be thought carefully. But in any other cases, It is not something that should be considered as a good thing. In most cases, a woman regrets terribly having done it afterwards, or years later.
To be clear, I don’t mean the song is about abortion the political issue. It’s about aborted existences and by extension, existence itself. The chorus is the essence of existence singing to the baby in the womb ready to be aborted.
To be clear, I don’t mean the song is about abortion the political issue. It’s about aborted existences and by extension, existence itself. The chorus is the essence of existence singing to the baby in the womb ready to be aborted.
Look at the format of the song. Two stanzas and one chorus. The first stanza is 7 normal lines, and three repeats of “Sons of the Silent Age”. The second stanza is 5 normal lines, and three repeats of Sons of the Silent Age.
Sons of the Silent age = aborted existences.
Look at the format of the song. Two stanzas and one chorus. The first stanza is 7 normal lines, and three repeats of “Sons of the Silent Age”. The second stanza is 5 normal lines, and three repeats of Sons of the Silent Age.
Sons of the Silent age = aborted existences.
The first words in the first 5 normal lines in the first stanza are all related words, but directly conflicting with each other. “Stand”, “sit”, “lay”, “pace”, and “rise”. They are all mutually exclusive. (stand and rise are in the context they are used) So while the whole stanza is talking about sons of the silent age, since these 5 words are mutually exclusive each line is talking about different groups of sons of the silent age. In other words, all the different kinds of lives all the aborted existence would’ve had. You have to notice things like this. Bowie expertly sings the stanzas all together so you assume each line in the stanza builds on each other, but they are completely and utterly separate. He sings them all together to express how existence all blurs together.
Look at each of these 5 lines. Each one is a one-line summary of a certain lifestyle/presence on this planet.
Stand on platforms blank looks and note books (in charge, but oblivious)
Sit in back rows of city limits (people SO close, but still isolated from society/people)
Lay in bed coming and going on easy terms (either apathetic people, or people who would have had aborted an existence had they not been aborted themselves)
Pace their rooms like a cell's dimensions (Thinkers! They’re the thinkers!)
Rise for a year or two then make war (People who die young but make a huge impact.)
The last two lines in the stanza step away from the contemplation of potential livelihoods the aborted would’ve had, and this is specified because they start with words “search” and “then”.
Search through their one inch thoughts Then decided it couldn’t be done (these last two lines refer to the people depriving existences of existence on this planet.)
Then you have the chorus. The chorus is the essence of existence itself crying out to the baby while it’s in the womb. Existence just isn’t going to let this created conceived human life form be deprived of existence! If it isn’t deemed worthy or lucky enough for Earth then it will find existence in some other way God Damn it!
Baby, I'll never let you go All I see is all I know Let's find another way down (sons of sound and sons of sound)
Baby, baby, I'll never let you down I can't stand another sound Let's take another way in (kicking the fucking door open for existence! We’re getting there baby.)
So then you have the final stanza. This time there are only five normal lines. The first words in the first three lines are “listen”, “pick”, and “make”. These again, conflict with each other. You pick someone, or you make something, or you listen to something. These are all mutually exclusive. But they aren’t all related like the first five lines in the first stanza are, so Bowie broke each of the first three lines up with a “sons of the silent age” to make clear that each line was a standalone projection of a potential existence.
Listen to tracks by Sam Therapy and King Dice (no clue what this means, but definitely looks like it could be a one-sentence summary of a livelihood)
Pick up in bars and cry only once (people whose first experience with love is intense and all chips in but when it backfires they cry hard but then never cry again, and instead pick up people in bars instead. In fewer words, people who get their heart broken and give up on love.)
Make love only once but dream and dream (too many interpretations to bother, but you’re lying if you don’t think this looks like a one-sentence summary of a potential lifestyle.)
So finally you have the final two lines in the last stanza. The first stanza got away with only having unrelated words starting off the last two lines since the first 5 normal lines were related. But since the first three lines in this stanza are already unrelated, Bowie had to do more to make it clear the last two lines are a separate concept, so he starts both off with “they”. While the last two lines of the first stanza talk about people depriving the existences of life on Earth, these ones simply talk about how the existence in its earliest form experiences the transformation into nothingness (until it’s given existence again by the essence of existence itself)
They don't walk they just glide in and out of life (they have life so short it’s just a blur)
They never die, they just go to sleep one day (they don’t “die” because they find existence elsewhere. They go to sleep on their existence on this planet)
Now it’s time for the very condensed version. Stanza one: five one-line summaries of potential pathways/presences the aborted existences would’ve had on this planet. And two lines about the decisions for their lives never to take place. Chorus: The essence of existence itself crying out to the about to be aborted fetus in the womb and promising it that it will find existence for it somewhere. Heaven? Another dimension? Recesses of David Bowie’s mind so he can write such sickeningly brilliant music? Stanza two: three one-line summaries of potential pathways the existences would’ve had. And two lines about them experiencing their conversion into temporary nothingness.