Firstly, when she says 'capital H-i-m, she is not referring to Satan. She's meaning, whether you love him, him being another man, or capital H-i-m, meaning God. So, whether you love another man (homosexual) or God, it's irrelevant, you're perfect since you were born that way.
I don't like how she gets so religious by mentioning God at all. I don't believe in a God, personally, and trying to say F-U to all those wing-nut evangelicals is a waste of breath. They don't deserve a single bit of attention, nor does an made up being they created.
The meaning is pretty easy to decipher since the lyrics are, admittedly, very weak and shallow. It's got a good beat and although I think of 'Express Yourself' when I hear this, I don't think it's an all-out remake. The racial remarks are nothing to bitch over. A rapper can say, 'nigger', in their lyrics and all we do is bleep it out, end of story. The minute a white girl says, 'chola', or 'orient', she's a demon and should be burned. When a word becomes taboo like that, it gives the word more power. Seriously, stop being so sensitive.
Definitely not her strongest work, by any means but, it sends a generally positive message and has a pretty good sound. Remains to be seen whether her next single, 'Jude', is any better.
Her extensive religious references is purely sociological. Lady Gaga clearly has a bone to pick with the idea that homosexuality is a sin. If you think about it (and actually read the bible) its clear that its impossible for homosexuality to be a sin.
Her extensive religious references is purely sociological. Lady Gaga clearly has a bone to pick with the idea that homosexuality is a sin. If you think about it (and actually read the bible) its clear that its impossible for homosexuality to be a sin.
I'm just going to get into it.
kjv Ezekiel 16:48-50
"As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and they daughters.
"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, nether did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
"And they where haughty, and committed abominations before me: there fore I took them away as I saw good."
Clearly the Lord GOD said exactly why he destroyed Sodom, yet not a single allusion towards homosexuality was made. I don't want to argue with what God, him self, said and claim that sodomite must mean homosexual.
This in it self completely destroyed all arguments made my christens that homosexuality is a sin. It clearly is not. It appears that Lady Gaga believes so and assures that God made a gay man perfect just the way he is.
I think it's clear that this issue is going to be pressed and honestly it scares me. I'm sure something will happen and if this idea that homosexuality is not a sin becomes accepted by the church... well what will that mean for Christianity? it's going to change a lot of things if this change really dose happen.
@rowkem: I definitely heard it as "Him", not "HIM" -- I suppose we'll likely find out when she releases the album, assuming there are lyrics in the booklet. I do disagree that she shouldn't have mentioned God at all, though. I don't personally believe in God either, but I see that less as calling out the evangelicals and more as assuring the people who are put down by said evangelicals and told there's something wrong with them. Evangelicals will be evangelicals, but I think her message is that you shouldn't feel like there's something wrong with you....
@rowkem: I definitely heard it as "Him", not "HIM" -- I suppose we'll likely find out when she releases the album, assuming there are lyrics in the booklet. I do disagree that she shouldn't have mentioned God at all, though. I don't personally believe in God either, but I see that less as calling out the evangelicals and more as assuring the people who are put down by said evangelicals and told there's something wrong with them. Evangelicals will be evangelicals, but I think her message is that you shouldn't feel like there's something wrong with you.
I agree on the quality of the song, too. It isn't her best work, and the lyrics aren't complicated at all, but they're good for a pick-me-up and there's a nice beat to it, and hopefully the rest of the album will surpass it. If "You and I" is any indicator, it seems that it certainly could.
@Clockmarks: Orient isn't necessarily a racial slur, but it's considered politically incorrect. From what I can gather, it's because you're only supposed to refer to inanimate objects as that, but I don't fully understand the reasoning.
I don't really see the huge issue with it, though. Especially considering that the message of the song is that you're perfect just the way you are, it clearly isn't supposed to be derogatory.
I interpreted "it doesn't matter if you love him or capital H-I-M" / "a different lover is not a sin" as a comment on religious tolerance. Him/a different lover being a god of any other religion or capital H-I-M, the Christian god.
I interpreted "it doesn't matter if you love him or capital H-I-M" / "a different lover is not a sin" as a comment on religious tolerance. Him/a different lover being a god of any other religion or capital H-I-M, the Christian god.
You do know The Letter of Paul to the Romans is a direct letter to the Roman Catholic Church do you not? Now, I had to figure which chapter you was referring to but I guess you was talking about Chapter 1 verse 27-32, now you continued to read to Chapter 2 verse 1-11. Study what the Romans done over the years and not only to men, but to children as well, lusting over them.
How about reading Matthew chapter 8 verse 5-13 about the so called servant which a Centurion actually giving a crap about a servant that he can just get another one, but wait, this one didn't, he said he was unworthy for Jesus to come under his roof because the apostles and who ever followed Jesus in would had discovered he was indeed by today terms "Gay"
@heartdal: everyone knows Paul of Tarsus was a nutter. Yet 2000 years later his (little-h) little end-of-the-world cult is still going strong. Give up!
@heartdal: everyone knows Paul of Tarsus was a nutter. Yet 2000 years later his (little-h) little end-of-the-world cult is still going strong. Give up!
Firstly, when she says 'capital H-i-m, she is not referring to Satan. She's meaning, whether you love him, him being another man, or capital H-i-m, meaning God. So, whether you love another man (homosexual) or God, it's irrelevant, you're perfect since you were born that way.
I don't like how she gets so religious by mentioning God at all. I don't believe in a God, personally, and trying to say F-U to all those wing-nut evangelicals is a waste of breath. They don't deserve a single bit of attention, nor does an made up being they created.
The meaning is pretty easy to decipher since the lyrics are, admittedly, very weak and shallow. It's got a good beat and although I think of 'Express Yourself' when I hear this, I don't think it's an all-out remake. The racial remarks are nothing to bitch over. A rapper can say, 'nigger', in their lyrics and all we do is bleep it out, end of story. The minute a white girl says, 'chola', or 'orient', she's a demon and should be burned. When a word becomes taboo like that, it gives the word more power. Seriously, stop being so sensitive.
Definitely not her strongest work, by any means but, it sends a generally positive message and has a pretty good sound. Remains to be seen whether her next single, 'Jude', is any better.
Her extensive religious references is purely sociological. Lady Gaga clearly has a bone to pick with the idea that homosexuality is a sin. If you think about it (and actually read the bible) its clear that its impossible for homosexuality to be a sin.
Her extensive religious references is purely sociological. Lady Gaga clearly has a bone to pick with the idea that homosexuality is a sin. If you think about it (and actually read the bible) its clear that its impossible for homosexuality to be a sin.
I'm just going to get into it. kjv Ezekiel 16:48-50 "As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and they daughters. "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, nether did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. "And they where haughty, and committed abominations before me: there fore I took them away as I saw good."
Clearly the Lord GOD said exactly why he destroyed Sodom, yet not a single allusion towards homosexuality was made. I don't want to argue with what God, him self, said and claim that sodomite must mean homosexual.
This in it self completely destroyed all arguments made my christens that homosexuality is a sin. It clearly is not. It appears that Lady Gaga believes so and assures that God made a gay man perfect just the way he is.
I think it's clear that this issue is going to be pressed and honestly it scares me. I'm sure something will happen and if this idea that homosexuality is not a sin becomes accepted by the church... well what will that mean for Christianity? it's going to change a lot of things if this change really dose happen.
BTW, sense when is orient a rascal slur?
@clockmarks:
@clockmarks:
romans 27-32 answers why everyone knows homosexuality is a sin.
romans 27-32 answers why everyone knows homosexuality is a sin.
@rowkem: I definitely heard it as "Him", not "HIM" -- I suppose we'll likely find out when she releases the album, assuming there are lyrics in the booklet. I do disagree that she shouldn't have mentioned God at all, though. I don't personally believe in God either, but I see that less as calling out the evangelicals and more as assuring the people who are put down by said evangelicals and told there's something wrong with them. Evangelicals will be evangelicals, but I think her message is that you shouldn't feel like there's something wrong with you....
@rowkem: I definitely heard it as "Him", not "HIM" -- I suppose we'll likely find out when she releases the album, assuming there are lyrics in the booklet. I do disagree that she shouldn't have mentioned God at all, though. I don't personally believe in God either, but I see that less as calling out the evangelicals and more as assuring the people who are put down by said evangelicals and told there's something wrong with them. Evangelicals will be evangelicals, but I think her message is that you shouldn't feel like there's something wrong with you.
I agree on the quality of the song, too. It isn't her best work, and the lyrics aren't complicated at all, but they're good for a pick-me-up and there's a nice beat to it, and hopefully the rest of the album will surpass it. If "You and I" is any indicator, it seems that it certainly could.
@Clockmarks: Orient isn't necessarily a racial slur, but it's considered politically incorrect. From what I can gather, it's because you're only supposed to refer to inanimate objects as that, but I don't fully understand the reasoning.
I don't really see the huge issue with it, though. Especially considering that the message of the song is that you're perfect just the way you are, it clearly isn't supposed to be derogatory.
I interpreted "it doesn't matter if you love him or capital H-I-M" / "a different lover is not a sin" as a comment on religious tolerance. Him/a different lover being a god of any other religion or capital H-I-M, the Christian god.
I interpreted "it doesn't matter if you love him or capital H-I-M" / "a different lover is not a sin" as a comment on religious tolerance. Him/a different lover being a god of any other religion or capital H-I-M, the Christian god.
@heartdal:
@heartdal:
You do know The Letter of Paul to the Romans is a direct letter to the Roman Catholic Church do you not? Now, I had to figure which chapter you was referring to but I guess you was talking about Chapter 1 verse 27-32, now you continued to read to Chapter 2 verse 1-11. Study what the Romans done over the years and not only to men, but to children as well, lusting over them. How about reading Matthew chapter 8 verse 5-13 about the so called servant which a Centurion actually giving a crap about a servant that he can just get another one, but wait, this one didn't, he said he was unworthy for Jesus to come under his roof because the apostles and who ever followed Jesus in would had discovered he was indeed by today terms "Gay"
@heartdal: everyone knows Paul of Tarsus was a nutter. Yet 2000 years later his (little-h) little end-of-the-world cult is still going strong. Give up!
@heartdal: everyone knows Paul of Tarsus was a nutter. Yet 2000 years later his (little-h) little end-of-the-world cult is still going strong. Give up!
" it doesn't matter if you love him, or capital H (vagina) I M
" it doesn't matter if you love him, or capital H (vagina) I M