I can't help but wonder if the women's movement of the 1970's, which is typified in Helen Reddy's "I Am Woman", resulted in a better world for women. Many women at that time thought that child-rearing, housework and taking care of their husbands was mundane and that men were 'keeping them down' at home. This movement led to a proliferation of dual income families that we still have now. In fact, I recently heard a statistic that there are now more women in the workforce than men. Are women happy about this? Do they like competing in the modern workplace - replete with mundane tasks at work, travel, projects, layoffs, small pay raises (if you're lucky), taxes, the daily commute, office politics, etc. As a recently minted stay-at-home Dad who has 'retired' from 20 years in the workforce, I can tell you that at least for me, being home is much better than being at work. Do the women of the 1970's, so desperate to escape their at-home lives, still prefer working over child-rearing, housework and taking care of their husbands?
I don't think they were so much escaping the home, as wanting to have a choice, a say in their own lives. To have a career in their early 20's and marry/have children when they were in their 30's. My mom married at 18 - my great grandmother married at 15 (and lived to be 85-luckily she married a "good" man).
I don't think they were so much escaping the home, as wanting to have a choice, a say in their own lives. To have a career in their early 20's and marry/have children when they were in their 30's. My mom married at 18 - my great grandmother married at 15 (and lived to be 85-luckily she married a "good" man).
Neither do I believe that they were man-haters who were against marriage and children.
Neither do I believe that they were man-haters who were against marriage and children.
I didn't realize till I started researching that women in the 1800's couldn't own property and that abuse wasn't a crime but considered a husband's/father's right;
That women who protested for the vote in the early 1900's were arrested and put in jail - and not exactly treated well while there!!!!
My great great grandmother had eleven children and died as a result - birth control that women controlled did not exist (well, neither did advanced medicine or sanitation).
I could put other examples out, but that's a start.
These days I read what's going on in US politics, and I'm afraid the newest generation has been lured into the world of Bratz dolls and The Kardashian's while the powers- that-be are slowly chipping away at women's rights while the they are shopping and watching reality TV.
Would love to see someone do a cover on this song - time to pay attention to what's going on around us!
PS: I enjoyed the times I could stay home with my sons more than my 30 years in the workforce (actually, I mostly did both at the same time). But let us know if after 20 years of child rearing, housework, and making a dollar stretch isn't just as exhausting as being in the workforce (though more rewarding, I agree!)!
AMEN. Love this song. Always have. I recall when it first hit the airwaves. It was OUR song...the white woman's anthem. Minority women didn't have the choice to stay home due to finances, which is why they were (as a whole) absent from the feminist movement. There was also a reason for the movement which you didn't touch on...the number of 'displaced homemakers" was growing...divorce was now becoming acceptable and the number of women (with no work history or fiscal credit) were left to raise children while living under the poverty level. Many men (today it's both men and women)...
AMEN. Love this song. Always have. I recall when it first hit the airwaves. It was OUR song...the white woman's anthem. Minority women didn't have the choice to stay home due to finances, which is why they were (as a whole) absent from the feminist movement. There was also a reason for the movement which you didn't touch on...the number of 'displaced homemakers" was growing...divorce was now becoming acceptable and the number of women (with no work history or fiscal credit) were left to raise children while living under the poverty level. Many men (today it's both men and women) were not paying child support. The courts, although favoring the women in custody issues, often did not make fathers as accountable fiscally as they should have been (considering the wife often had less education and less workplace training, etc). The original feminist movement was about choice (not necessarily abortion), but it later morphed into something I ran from...it became a movement that frowned upon real choice (to either stay home and raise children or to go fulltime into the workforce) and became dominated by lesbians who (at that time) often did not have children. The "needs" of the female who wanted to remain in the home to give her children the best start possible in life were NOT being met by the movement. Eventually (as it is now), abortion and gay marriage became topics that dominated the movement. That's not to say the movement did not produce positive results. Women (in 1972) were finally able to get credit cards w/o the approval of a spouse (or having to be on a joint account). Women in the workforce begin to see backlash against sexual harrassment and lower wages based on gender. Corporations began to offer day care services for mothers so their children could be cared for nearby. The courts began to see women as equals under the law, etc. Domestic abuse laws changed (when I worked with abuse victims at an underground shelter decades ago a man could not rape his wife and police would often not take a man to jail even if the woman showed signs of abuse unless she was strong enough to point out her abuser). I could go on and on but I have been told I am BORING:) Anyway, I love this song and it's perfect for a day of painting and doing other tasks that were once reserved for males. I am woman hear me roar but damn it would be nice to snuggle up next to a warm bodied male with all the right parts :)
Good for you! I wouldn't trade the decade I spent fulltime with my children. For approx 3 years I actually felt guilty for staying home and not bringing home a paycheck. It wasn't until my spouse looked at me and told me to stop it; he assured me I was the only one who felt I needed to earn a check as he viewed me as a huge contributor to the family (and its needs). My years in the feminist movement had conditioned me to value working outside of the home over what was best for my children...the next generation...
Good for you! I wouldn't trade the decade I spent fulltime with my children. For approx 3 years I actually felt guilty for staying home and not bringing home a paycheck. It wasn't until my spouse looked at me and told me to stop it; he assured me I was the only one who felt I needed to earn a check as he viewed me as a huge contributor to the family (and its needs). My years in the feminist movement had conditioned me to value working outside of the home over what was best for my children...the next generation of society contributors.
@Freedom Lover I would agree with FreedomHeals that this was more about giving women the choice to either go to work or stay home and raise children, and not necessarily about HAVING to go to work. I also don't think that that was the worst thing to happen to the women's movement of the 1970's. The worst thing (or one of the worst things) that happened to the women's movement was the so-called "sexual revolution." Instead of encouraging men to raise their moral standards to what had been expected of women before the sexual revolution, women were...
@Freedom Lover I would agree with FreedomHeals that this was more about giving women the choice to either go to work or stay home and raise children, and not necessarily about HAVING to go to work. I also don't think that that was the worst thing to happen to the women's movement of the 1970's. The worst thing (or one of the worst things) that happened to the women's movement was the so-called "sexual revolution." Instead of encouraging men to raise their moral standards to what had been expected of women before the sexual revolution, women were encouraged to lower their moral standards to what had always been expected of men. Of course, the double standard that had been in place wasn't okay. But what happened with the sexual revolution wasn't okay either.
I realize that I'm digressing here. This isn't really what this song is about. But your comment about the women's movement having some less-than-desirable results made me want to get my two cents in about this. I still think that overall, the women's movement started out as a good thing. But sadly, it was hijacked by fanatics, who twisted it into something ugly.
@Freedom Lover It is so much easier in modern times to stay at home and raise kids. Not that it is easy, just easier now than it was then. And women always have two jobs, while you have one.
When men like you realize that THEN women will have a real choice.
Things re not fair weven now. When people say they are pro-life, they mean the burdon is all on the woman. It always has been but I hope someday men will be held half responsible for a child being brought into the world. Until then women should not be judged...
@Freedom Lover It is so much easier in modern times to stay at home and raise kids. Not that it is easy, just easier now than it was then. And women always have two jobs, while you have one.
When men like you realize that THEN women will have a real choice.
Things re not fair weven now. When people say they are pro-life, they mean the burdon is all on the woman. It always has been but I hope someday men will be held half responsible for a child being brought into the world. Until then women should not be judged and the only ones to pay for becoming pregnant. Because birth control doesn't always work, and most men do anything to avoid doing their part. I could go onand on, but sick of priviliged men talking about how much better it is FOR THEM to stay home. Of course it is, because you only have one job, its all men ever have. So when you work full time AND take care of the kids, house, etc, then you can wonder if women are happy.
I can't help but wonder if the women's movement of the 1970's, which is typified in Helen Reddy's "I Am Woman", resulted in a better world for women. Many women at that time thought that child-rearing, housework and taking care of their husbands was mundane and that men were 'keeping them down' at home. This movement led to a proliferation of dual income families that we still have now. In fact, I recently heard a statistic that there are now more women in the workforce than men. Are women happy about this? Do they like competing in the modern workplace - replete with mundane tasks at work, travel, projects, layoffs, small pay raises (if you're lucky), taxes, the daily commute, office politics, etc. As a recently minted stay-at-home Dad who has 'retired' from 20 years in the workforce, I can tell you that at least for me, being home is much better than being at work. Do the women of the 1970's, so desperate to escape their at-home lives, still prefer working over child-rearing, housework and taking care of their husbands?
I don't think they were so much escaping the home, as wanting to have a choice, a say in their own lives. To have a career in their early 20's and marry/have children when they were in their 30's. My mom married at 18 - my great grandmother married at 15 (and lived to be 85-luckily she married a "good" man).
I don't think they were so much escaping the home, as wanting to have a choice, a say in their own lives. To have a career in their early 20's and marry/have children when they were in their 30's. My mom married at 18 - my great grandmother married at 15 (and lived to be 85-luckily she married a "good" man).
Neither do I believe that they were man-haters who were against marriage and children.
Neither do I believe that they were man-haters who were against marriage and children.
I didn't realize till I started researching that women in the 1800's couldn't own property and that abuse wasn't a crime but considered a husband's/father's right;
That women who protested for the vote in the early 1900's were arrested and put in jail - and not exactly treated well while there!!!!
My great great grandmother had eleven children and died as a result - birth control that women controlled did not exist (well, neither did advanced medicine or sanitation).
I could put other examples out, but that's a start.
These days I read what's going on in US politics, and I'm afraid the newest generation has been lured into the world of Bratz dolls and The Kardashian's while the powers- that-be are slowly chipping away at women's rights while the they are shopping and watching reality TV.
Would love to see someone do a cover on this song - time to pay attention to what's going on around us!
PS: I enjoyed the times I could stay home with my sons more than my 30 years in the workforce (actually, I mostly did both at the same time). But let us know if after 20 years of child rearing, housework, and making a dollar stretch isn't just as exhausting as being in the workforce (though more rewarding, I agree!)!
AMEN. Love this song. Always have. I recall when it first hit the airwaves. It was OUR song...the white woman's anthem. Minority women didn't have the choice to stay home due to finances, which is why they were (as a whole) absent from the feminist movement. There was also a reason for the movement which you didn't touch on...the number of 'displaced homemakers" was growing...divorce was now becoming acceptable and the number of women (with no work history or fiscal credit) were left to raise children while living under the poverty level. Many men (today it's both men and women)...
AMEN. Love this song. Always have. I recall when it first hit the airwaves. It was OUR song...the white woman's anthem. Minority women didn't have the choice to stay home due to finances, which is why they were (as a whole) absent from the feminist movement. There was also a reason for the movement which you didn't touch on...the number of 'displaced homemakers" was growing...divorce was now becoming acceptable and the number of women (with no work history or fiscal credit) were left to raise children while living under the poverty level. Many men (today it's both men and women) were not paying child support. The courts, although favoring the women in custody issues, often did not make fathers as accountable fiscally as they should have been (considering the wife often had less education and less workplace training, etc). The original feminist movement was about choice (not necessarily abortion), but it later morphed into something I ran from...it became a movement that frowned upon real choice (to either stay home and raise children or to go fulltime into the workforce) and became dominated by lesbians who (at that time) often did not have children. The "needs" of the female who wanted to remain in the home to give her children the best start possible in life were NOT being met by the movement. Eventually (as it is now), abortion and gay marriage became topics that dominated the movement. That's not to say the movement did not produce positive results. Women (in 1972) were finally able to get credit cards w/o the approval of a spouse (or having to be on a joint account). Women in the workforce begin to see backlash against sexual harrassment and lower wages based on gender. Corporations began to offer day care services for mothers so their children could be cared for nearby. The courts began to see women as equals under the law, etc. Domestic abuse laws changed (when I worked with abuse victims at an underground shelter decades ago a man could not rape his wife and police would often not take a man to jail even if the woman showed signs of abuse unless she was strong enough to point out her abuser). I could go on and on but I have been told I am BORING:) Anyway, I love this song and it's perfect for a day of painting and doing other tasks that were once reserved for males. I am woman hear me roar but damn it would be nice to snuggle up next to a warm bodied male with all the right parts :)
Good for you! I wouldn't trade the decade I spent fulltime with my children. For approx 3 years I actually felt guilty for staying home and not bringing home a paycheck. It wasn't until my spouse looked at me and told me to stop it; he assured me I was the only one who felt I needed to earn a check as he viewed me as a huge contributor to the family (and its needs). My years in the feminist movement had conditioned me to value working outside of the home over what was best for my children...the next generation...
Good for you! I wouldn't trade the decade I spent fulltime with my children. For approx 3 years I actually felt guilty for staying home and not bringing home a paycheck. It wasn't until my spouse looked at me and told me to stop it; he assured me I was the only one who felt I needed to earn a check as he viewed me as a huge contributor to the family (and its needs). My years in the feminist movement had conditioned me to value working outside of the home over what was best for my children...the next generation of society contributors.
@Freedom Lover I would agree with FreedomHeals that this was more about giving women the choice to either go to work or stay home and raise children, and not necessarily about HAVING to go to work. I also don't think that that was the worst thing to happen to the women's movement of the 1970's. The worst thing (or one of the worst things) that happened to the women's movement was the so-called "sexual revolution." Instead of encouraging men to raise their moral standards to what had been expected of women before the sexual revolution, women were...
@Freedom Lover I would agree with FreedomHeals that this was more about giving women the choice to either go to work or stay home and raise children, and not necessarily about HAVING to go to work. I also don't think that that was the worst thing to happen to the women's movement of the 1970's. The worst thing (or one of the worst things) that happened to the women's movement was the so-called "sexual revolution." Instead of encouraging men to raise their moral standards to what had been expected of women before the sexual revolution, women were encouraged to lower their moral standards to what had always been expected of men. Of course, the double standard that had been in place wasn't okay. But what happened with the sexual revolution wasn't okay either.
I realize that I'm digressing here. This isn't really what this song is about. But your comment about the women's movement having some less-than-desirable results made me want to get my two cents in about this. I still think that overall, the women's movement started out as a good thing. But sadly, it was hijacked by fanatics, who twisted it into something ugly.
@Freedom Lover It is so much easier in modern times to stay at home and raise kids. Not that it is easy, just easier now than it was then. And women always have two jobs, while you have one. When men like you realize that THEN women will have a real choice. Things re not fair weven now. When people say they are pro-life, they mean the burdon is all on the woman. It always has been but I hope someday men will be held half responsible for a child being brought into the world. Until then women should not be judged...
@Freedom Lover It is so much easier in modern times to stay at home and raise kids. Not that it is easy, just easier now than it was then. And women always have two jobs, while you have one. When men like you realize that THEN women will have a real choice. Things re not fair weven now. When people say they are pro-life, they mean the burdon is all on the woman. It always has been but I hope someday men will be held half responsible for a child being brought into the world. Until then women should not be judged and the only ones to pay for becoming pregnant. Because birth control doesn't always work, and most men do anything to avoid doing their part. I could go onand on, but sick of priviliged men talking about how much better it is FOR THEM to stay home. Of course it is, because you only have one job, its all men ever have. So when you work full time AND take care of the kids, house, etc, then you can wonder if women are happy.