Lyric discussion by tetrapank 

Reason I've joined and registered to this webpage is to answer the reply of the "underthegun897" guy. So here it goes...

""the kids who used to live for beer and speed now want their fries and coke" so NOFX is indirectly stating they wish more people were alcoholics and hooked on speed...thats nice. (not that coke and fries are amazing for you, either)""

Okay bro, I think you've got something wrong here, it's not about drinking beer or doing speed, it's just a way to tell that today's punk rock kids rather do/use/consume stuff that they are allowed, "supposed" or even expected to. Punk rock is or at least used to be a movement that is about tearing the book and writing your own rules and doing what you believe and not doing what your parents/teachers tell you just because they tell you so.

""cursing and flipping birds are not allowed, in fact let's keep noise levels down" now i know why bands like Anti-Flag and Dead Kennedys hate punks like Fat Mike so much..Anti-Flag has in their Die For The Government album that so many think that punk is just "a mohawk, a sneer, and a bad attitude" apparently all of these, including immaturity, are what fat mike thinks of punk music."

Okay first of all retard, this one bothered me the most. Anti-Flag met Fat Mike on warped tour one summer and they are friends since then and Anti-Flag even did two albums on mike's label Fat Wreck Chords which include "The Terror State" and "The underground network" and fat wreck chords time is considered anti-flag's best era. You still think you're right? Okay let's move on to DK, Jello Biafra mentioned that fat mike was the first guy he called when rest of dk sued him for playing his songs, also known thing is that they are friends in private life and there even is a video where you can see jello and mike hanging on GG Allin's show.

""why don't we put pads on the kids, helmets, head gear and mouth pieces: i guess after the kids are hooked on speed and alcohol, he'd like to see them hurt themselves on their bikes and skateboards."

When i first seen your comment I just had to check your age, and it was no surprise when i saw you were born in 69', but what came as a surprise that an older man like you doesn't get that he does not refer to skateboarding or bikes here, the line you've mentioned is written ironically and does not have to do anything with skateboarding or other sports and it's also noticeable from next few lines of the song.

""i want conflict i want dissent, i want the scene to represent" most punk bands represent peace..but it appears NOFX prefers violence."

First of all smartass, this line doesn't mean anything without the next line, and, did you actually here any punk music in your freakin life? The peace that punk bands represent is peace in form of not having wars going on in world, everyone having the same rights disregarding their wealth/skin color and stuff like that, they don't promote hippie atmosphere on punkrock shows or hippie way of "solving the problems"(sitting naked, smoking weed and wasting their time and think they'll change something and not realizing that they are just another problem to solve for the whole world).

"our hatred of authority, our fight against complacency" ive heard that in so many songs, yet then they try to say "be original" here: "when did punk rock become so tame, these fucking bands all sound the same"

Do you actually realize what did they wanted to say with that line? don't really think so...

"We want our fights we want our thugs, we want our burns we want our drugs" Again..violence and drug-use. he sounds like a jock whos getting into punk for the fashion..i think instead of "Davey Destroyed The Punk Scene" it should have been "Fat Mike Destroyed The Punk Scene" (Anti-Flag)

It's not violence, he just says he misses the danger of being in a punk rock band or being a punk rocker that's gone today, because punk is an underground movement not the mainstream shit it has become today because of the people like you who just don't get what punk is about.

"where is the violent apathy, these fucking records are rated G" once again..the violence. and he also thinks that swearing makes him sound cool and tough. how often did the ramones, adicts, bad religion, sex pistols, clash, buzzcocks, dead kennedys countless of other GOOD, original punk bands swear? not very often...

Once again, you've proved that you're full of shit. Swearing? I'll remind you of a song line from cock sparrer "Rotten on the telly, showing what a few choice words could do" reminds you of anything? Dead Kennedys - nazi punks fuck off (just and example, not the only song), and you say, GOOD, original punk bands?? What the fuck are you talking about man, original? good? come on...

"in conclusion, i dont think that Fat Mike is any greater than all of the bands hes complaining about. if you disagree with me on anything i said, as in using drugs, violence, ect. then you're a complete idiot, which would probabaly explain why you're a NOFX fan in the first place...."

Ok, so I'm an idiot because I pointed out that nothing of what you've written is correct?

im 19 and ive listened to punk music since i was 12, so dont try to tell me what i listen and dont listen to. i dont even really listen to much punk anymore but its funny reading through all these comments. you people are too busy bitching about other people and what other people like when you should spend your time worrying about yourself. if you really care about what other people listen to or wear, then youre probably 15 and dont even understand what punk rocks all about.

underthegun897 contradicts himself all over the shop... and to mention the Buzzcocks as one of the original, good bands that don't swear....?? Listen to Oh Shit, no less than 28 swear words in that song. Dude you're 21 and it shows, you are either naive or just trolling. "ive listened to punk music since i was 12".... WOW a whole 7 years at the time of your last post. Why dontya go get Bieber's latest album... it may be more up your alley.

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