It means that Muse is not a fan of tyranny or forced control into the collective (social justice) but rather believes that we must rise up to face it AND fight it, in the name of our personal liberty. I know that the UK has a long history of social control and tyranny and we are just now learning to love it here in the US. I think this song is directed here (as is very trendy with UK and Aussie bands...at least when Bush was pres). Regarding the fat cats line; You could interpret as directed towards big business or capitalism but they are out for profits, not outright control over every detail of the peoples lives. That kind of power and control over the citizens is the mainstay of large central government and the bubble-dwelling elitists that manipulate it. I would think he is directing that towards the establishment fat cats (read as: barney frank/nancy pelosi/chris dodd/harry reid and yes even the chosen one himself). I would add some republicans in there as well but since they aren't in power at this time and haven't really been in the last 3 years...I would say this anti-tyranny song is most likely directed at the current over-reaching, power grabbing, liberty destroying control whores currently running the show both here and abroad. The ones telling us every day to shut up, sit down and get down with the progressive landslide that is swallowing us up whole. I may be personalizing too much to assume it is geared towards the US, as it is equally applicable to the current socialist agenda in the UK and the rest of Europe (no you can't have that breast cancer treatment, because we can't provide it to everybody...take two aspirin and call me when you reach stage 4, we have some great suicide drugs that provide ample savings). However, I have to ask myself where they plan to make more money on touring and cd/ipod sales...here or in the UK. Marketing 101.
Oh my God, factfreak, I love ya!! You said it all perfectly...it's just perfect. The very first time I heard this song, the line that caught my ear was "They will not force us". Of course, interpretation is left to the individual...and like you, that is exactly where my mind went - the "unprecedented" power trip that is going down in D.C. Each time I heard the song, I really focused to see if the rest of the lyrics fit my theory. The only line I questioned was the 'fat cats' one...but believe it or...
Oh my God, factfreak, I love ya!! You said it all perfectly...it's just perfect. The very first time I heard this song, the line that caught my ear was "They will not force us". Of course, interpretation is left to the individual...and like you, that is exactly where my mind went - the "unprecedented" power trip that is going down in D.C. Each time I heard the song, I really focused to see if the rest of the lyrics fit my theory. The only line I questioned was the 'fat cats' one...but believe it or not, even then I "chose" to interpret it as the clowns in Congress. What a disgrace they are. Geez, you posted this in August, you probably won't even see my reply. I think we might need to discuss further - it's always good to find like-minded people. Yahoo IM kelliekg44 - chat me up!
I think all our political biases are going to affect our interpretation of a political song. I'm slightly left-of-centre so disagree that this is anything to do with the Obama adminsitration, and would point out as evidence that when Glenn Beck started claiming that the song expresses support for his view, the band asked him to stop playing it and dissociated themselves from those opinions.
I think all our political biases are going to affect our interpretation of a political song. I'm slightly left-of-centre so disagree that this is anything to do with the Obama adminsitration, and would point out as evidence that when Glenn Beck started claiming that the song expresses support for his view, the band asked him to stop playing it and dissociated themselves from those opinions.
Most Europeans aren't afraid of the word "socialism" or the idea of government running or at least regulating parts of the private sector where there isn't perfect competition, and don't consider the government to be dead set against their interests like so many Americans do. Universal healthcare is accepted by all civilised nations and has broad support: who are the fat cats, the 50%+ who want health costs reduced and shared, or the shareholders of medical insurance companies who want to go on raising premiums, cutting coverage, and taking bigger profits while people die of their conditions?
The "fat cats" probably more likely refers to (to pick a couple):
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Self interested politicians manifested in America by demands for pork-barrel spending which does benefit an individual congressman's area but probably not the best use of taxpayers money, and who sell their votes in return for campaign contributions.
Bankers (not sure if the song was written before the banking crisis started). The crisis was caused by a system which encouraged greed by bankers, rewarding them for lend money to dodgier and dodgier borrowers regardless of the risks, knowing that ultimately it's not their money they're gambling.
Too bad Matt is admittedly a leftist, economically and socially, so to say that their "Resistance" is in reference to resisting left-leaning government would be the exact opposite of what they actually believe. lulz
Too bad Matt is admittedly a leftist, economically and socially, so to say that their "Resistance" is in reference to resisting left-leaning government would be the exact opposite of what they actually believe. lulz
Bravo! Spot on. However, that you cant add Republicans to the list is false. The establishment class has sold us out just as completely as Democrats. Bold and i love it! Even to the p oint of declaring t h e green movement as just another controling device. Truth hurts when it forces you to face t h e fact yiu have to t u rn off TMZ and put your iphone d o wn from time to ti m e and risk losing that else perhaps lose y o ur liberty.
Bravo! Spot on. However, that you cant add Republicans to the list is false. The establishment class has sold us out just as completely as Democrats. Bold and i love it! Even to the p oint of declaring t h e green movement as just another controling device. Truth hurts when it forces you to face t h e fact yiu have to t u rn off TMZ and put your iphone d o wn from time to ti m e and risk losing that else perhaps lose y o ur liberty.
@factfreak Just to name a few: Healthcare, housing/rent, electricity, gas/oil, cable, higher ed, travel, search engines/apps/virtual tools, Banking incl. home ownership, loans, are privately owned and operated. Only things most people need to survive. I really wish peoples' analysis in the U.S. that the largest corporations don't have immense control in our daily lives, and over the policies that effect our daily lives, would be reexamined. You're out of your mind if you don't realize that the whole political game is geared toward politicians supporting the largest corporations, right and left.
@factfreak Just to name a few: Healthcare, housing/rent, electricity, gas/oil, cable, higher ed, travel, search engines/apps/virtual tools, Banking incl. home ownership, loans, are privately owned and operated. Only things most people need to survive. I really wish peoples' analysis in the U.S. that the largest corporations don't have immense control in our daily lives, and over the policies that effect our daily lives, would be reexamined. You're out of your mind if you don't realize that the whole political game is geared toward politicians supporting the largest corporations, right and left.
Did you hear this one from Princeton? In reviewing over 1700 policy issues, they found: "Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence." Unless you think Princeton is too radical, the proof is in the pudding.
It means that Muse is not a fan of tyranny or forced control into the collective (social justice) but rather believes that we must rise up to face it AND fight it, in the name of our personal liberty. I know that the UK has a long history of social control and tyranny and we are just now learning to love it here in the US. I think this song is directed here (as is very trendy with UK and Aussie bands...at least when Bush was pres). Regarding the fat cats line; You could interpret as directed towards big business or capitalism but they are out for profits, not outright control over every detail of the peoples lives. That kind of power and control over the citizens is the mainstay of large central government and the bubble-dwelling elitists that manipulate it. I would think he is directing that towards the establishment fat cats (read as: barney frank/nancy pelosi/chris dodd/harry reid and yes even the chosen one himself). I would add some republicans in there as well but since they aren't in power at this time and haven't really been in the last 3 years...I would say this anti-tyranny song is most likely directed at the current over-reaching, power grabbing, liberty destroying control whores currently running the show both here and abroad. The ones telling us every day to shut up, sit down and get down with the progressive landslide that is swallowing us up whole. I may be personalizing too much to assume it is geared towards the US, as it is equally applicable to the current socialist agenda in the UK and the rest of Europe (no you can't have that breast cancer treatment, because we can't provide it to everybody...take two aspirin and call me when you reach stage 4, we have some great suicide drugs that provide ample savings). However, I have to ask myself where they plan to make more money on touring and cd/ipod sales...here or in the UK. Marketing 101.
Oh my God, factfreak, I love ya!! You said it all perfectly...it's just perfect. The very first time I heard this song, the line that caught my ear was "They will not force us". Of course, interpretation is left to the individual...and like you, that is exactly where my mind went - the "unprecedented" power trip that is going down in D.C. Each time I heard the song, I really focused to see if the rest of the lyrics fit my theory. The only line I questioned was the 'fat cats' one...but believe it or...
Oh my God, factfreak, I love ya!! You said it all perfectly...it's just perfect. The very first time I heard this song, the line that caught my ear was "They will not force us". Of course, interpretation is left to the individual...and like you, that is exactly where my mind went - the "unprecedented" power trip that is going down in D.C. Each time I heard the song, I really focused to see if the rest of the lyrics fit my theory. The only line I questioned was the 'fat cats' one...but believe it or not, even then I "chose" to interpret it as the clowns in Congress. What a disgrace they are. Geez, you posted this in August, you probably won't even see my reply. I think we might need to discuss further - it's always good to find like-minded people. Yahoo IM kelliekg44 - chat me up!
I think all our political biases are going to affect our interpretation of a political song. I'm slightly left-of-centre so disagree that this is anything to do with the Obama adminsitration, and would point out as evidence that when Glenn Beck started claiming that the song expresses support for his view, the band asked him to stop playing it and dissociated themselves from those opinions.
I think all our political biases are going to affect our interpretation of a political song. I'm slightly left-of-centre so disagree that this is anything to do with the Obama adminsitration, and would point out as evidence that when Glenn Beck started claiming that the song expresses support for his view, the band asked him to stop playing it and dissociated themselves from those opinions.
Most Europeans aren't afraid of the word "socialism" or the idea of government running or at least regulating parts of the private sector where there isn't perfect competition, and don't consider the government to be dead set against their interests like so many Americans do. Universal healthcare is accepted by all civilised nations and has broad support: who are the fat cats, the 50%+ who want health costs reduced and shared, or the shareholders of medical insurance companies who want to go on raising premiums, cutting coverage, and taking bigger profits while people die of their conditions?
The "fat cats" probably more likely refers to (to pick a couple):
>
Too bad Matt is admittedly a leftist, economically and socially, so to say that their "Resistance" is in reference to resisting left-leaning government would be the exact opposite of what they actually believe. lulz
Too bad Matt is admittedly a leftist, economically and socially, so to say that their "Resistance" is in reference to resisting left-leaning government would be the exact opposite of what they actually believe. lulz
@ Darth Squirrel, Matt's actually an admitted libertarian - not a leftist / liberal / progressive.
@ Darth Squirrel, Matt's actually an admitted libertarian - not a leftist / liberal / progressive.
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Bravo! Spot on. However, that you cant add Republicans to the list is false. The establishment class has sold us out just as completely as Democrats. Bold and i love it! Even to the p oint of declaring t h e green movement as just another controling device. Truth hurts when it forces you to face t h e fact yiu have to t u rn off TMZ and put your iphone d o wn from time to ti m e and risk losing that else perhaps lose y o ur liberty.
Bravo! Spot on. However, that you cant add Republicans to the list is false. The establishment class has sold us out just as completely as Democrats. Bold and i love it! Even to the p oint of declaring t h e green movement as just another controling device. Truth hurts when it forces you to face t h e fact yiu have to t u rn off TMZ and put your iphone d o wn from time to ti m e and risk losing that else perhaps lose y o ur liberty.
@factfreak Just to name a few: Healthcare, housing/rent, electricity, gas/oil, cable, higher ed, travel, search engines/apps/virtual tools, Banking incl. home ownership, loans, are privately owned and operated. Only things most people need to survive. I really wish peoples' analysis in the U.S. that the largest corporations don't have immense control in our daily lives, and over the policies that effect our daily lives, would be reexamined. You're out of your mind if you don't realize that the whole political game is geared toward politicians supporting the largest corporations, right and left.
@factfreak Just to name a few: Healthcare, housing/rent, electricity, gas/oil, cable, higher ed, travel, search engines/apps/virtual tools, Banking incl. home ownership, loans, are privately owned and operated. Only things most people need to survive. I really wish peoples' analysis in the U.S. that the largest corporations don't have immense control in our daily lives, and over the policies that effect our daily lives, would be reexamined. You're out of your mind if you don't realize that the whole political game is geared toward politicians supporting the largest corporations, right and left.
Did you hear this one from Princeton? In reviewing over 1700 policy issues, they found: "Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence." Unless you think Princeton is too radical, the proof is in the pudding.