i did wonder if icicle was a song about molestation as per previously mentioned. perhaps the icicle relates to the coldness of the hand of the molester? not sure if the perp(etrator) is one from the church but i thought that while the perp was on the one hand going on about the wonders of the good book, tori is debating whether the perp's good book is different to her one cos' the one she reads doesn't have anything about molestation being normal? also, the bit about everyone singing downstairs while he's getting in her pumpkin pjs upstairs could be referring to the obliviousness and 'trust' that people may have in religious figures, even though some may not be as holy as they appear cos' he's taking advantage upstairs. and right at the end of the song - she should've/could've flown, but didn't.
i think the piano bit at the start is a nice preempt to the song cos' it starts all sweet and ends all bitter and off key - is it musically creating the following scenario whereby a man of the cloth takes away the innocence in the most wrong way ever?!
dunno. it's a deep and well written musically and lyrically song. but then most of tori's stuff is.
I do believe the song is about molestation and the loss of her childhood for which she was told to find solace in religion, but found greater solace in self-love.
I do believe the song is about molestation and the loss of her childhood for which she was told to find solace in religion, but found greater solace in self-love.
An icicle, similar to one's childhood, can melt away and never return. Personally, the piano intro creates an image in my mind of a child playing innocently, and then curiously, and then there's intense trouble, and then melody begins leading into the first verse as her last hope, or her "hiding place."
An icicle, similar to one's childhood, can melt away and never return. Personally, the piano intro creates an image in my mind of a child playing innocently, and then curiously, and then there's intense trouble, and then melody begins leading into the first verse as her last hope, or her "hiding place."
She talks of having a hiding place as spring "marches in," as opposed to the usually gentle transition from childhood to adulthood. Also, she emphasizes "MY hand touches MY self," as opposed to someone else's hand.
The "I could have, I should have" part is a very common thought as an adult remembering a traumatic childhood experience. You always think of things you could have or should have done differently, but you cannot blame yourself for having the rationality of a child when you were one.
now that you mention it I think her preferred hiding place is somewhere outside but since it's still cold out her room is the only place she can hide from the church people
now that you mention it I think her preferred hiding place is somewhere outside but since it's still cold out her room is the only place she can hide from the church people
i did wonder if icicle was a song about molestation as per previously mentioned. perhaps the icicle relates to the coldness of the hand of the molester? not sure if the perp(etrator) is one from the church but i thought that while the perp was on the one hand going on about the wonders of the good book, tori is debating whether the perp's good book is different to her one cos' the one she reads doesn't have anything about molestation being normal? also, the bit about everyone singing downstairs while he's getting in her pumpkin pjs upstairs could be referring to the obliviousness and 'trust' that people may have in religious figures, even though some may not be as holy as they appear cos' he's taking advantage upstairs. and right at the end of the song - she should've/could've flown, but didn't.
i think the piano bit at the start is a nice preempt to the song cos' it starts all sweet and ends all bitter and off key - is it musically creating the following scenario whereby a man of the cloth takes away the innocence in the most wrong way ever?!
dunno. it's a deep and well written musically and lyrically song. but then most of tori's stuff is.
I do believe the song is about molestation and the loss of her childhood for which she was told to find solace in religion, but found greater solace in self-love.
I do believe the song is about molestation and the loss of her childhood for which she was told to find solace in religion, but found greater solace in self-love.
An icicle, similar to one's childhood, can melt away and never return. Personally, the piano intro creates an image in my mind of a child playing innocently, and then curiously, and then there's intense trouble, and then melody begins leading into the first verse as her last hope, or her "hiding place."
An icicle, similar to one's childhood, can melt away and never return. Personally, the piano intro creates an image in my mind of a child playing innocently, and then curiously, and then there's intense trouble, and then melody begins leading into the first verse as her last hope, or her "hiding place."
She talks of having a hiding place as spring "marches in," as opposed to the usually gentle transition from childhood to adulthood. Also, she emphasizes "MY hand touches MY self," as opposed to someone else's hand.
The "I could have, I should have" part is a very common thought as an adult remembering a traumatic childhood experience. You always think of things you could have or should have done differently, but you cannot blame yourself for having the rationality of a child when you were one.
now that you mention it I think her preferred hiding place is somewhere outside but since it's still cold out her room is the only place she can hide from the church people
now that you mention it I think her preferred hiding place is somewhere outside but since it's still cold out her room is the only place she can hide from the church people
@moosh Yes, agree and especially the "could've should've" feeling refers to molestation (But we'll never know the really)
@moosh Yes, agree and especially the "could've should've" feeling refers to molestation (But we'll never know the really)