Wow great song. hooked instantly with the "1..., 21 guns." Could and should be released as 3rd or 4th single. Obviously antiwar or it could be about C&G(christian and gloria) situation. knowing what your fighting for and is it worth your life.
"Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone". I really really love this line. I think its another stab at christianity and how christians look at jesus as a source of forgiveness. and their statues and crosses are the stones. thats my take in reading it at least. awesome either way.
Ok, I really don't know what your getting at with Christian statues and crosses being stones... but the biggest problem with your theory is the whole thing about Christians lying about saying they're forgiving. I don't care if Green Day is ragging on that or not, people who think that's true are really kinda ignorant about how true Christianity is. If you meet a Christian who isn't forgiving, then that's not a good Christian, and not someone who you should put as an example for all of Christianity.
Ok, I really don't know what your getting at with Christian statues and crosses being stones... but the biggest problem with your theory is the whole thing about Christians lying about saying they're forgiving. I don't care if Green Day is ragging on that or not, people who think that's true are really kinda ignorant about how true Christianity is. If you meet a Christian who isn't forgiving, then that's not a good Christian, and not someone who you should put as an example for all of Christianity.
I just find it kind of insulting that this has become the stereotype for all Christians, when it's far from the truth.
You might be on to something there with the whole "looking for forgiveness from a stone" thing, but you are way off with the Christianity thing. Christians don't look for forgiveness from a stone (or a cross or a statues for that matter), that's "idol worship" which is, FYI, not Christianity. But awesome song, regardless of the incorrect assumptions people are making of it.
You might be on to something there with the whole "looking for forgiveness from a stone" thing, but you are way off with the Christianity thing. Christians don't look for forgiveness from a stone (or a cross or a statues for that matter), that's "idol worship" which is, FYI, not Christianity. But awesome song, regardless of the incorrect assumptions people are making of it.
i agree, it could b about it christianity, and to the guys who replied to this, every1 knows that christians dont actually pray to the statues, and if they don't then they're very ignorant. If this line is about C&G then i would say one of them lied and is remorseful about it and is trying to get forgiveness from the other, who is being cold and emotionless (stone)
i agree, it could b about it christianity, and to the guys who replied to this, every1 knows that christians dont actually pray to the statues, and if they don't then they're very ignorant. If this line is about C&G then i would say one of them lied and is remorseful about it and is trying to get forgiveness from the other, who is being cold and emotionless (stone)
with all that aside, i took the 'stone' to refer a gravestone, and how the subject was looking for forgiveness for something he did to someone that was buried, and so he was only talking to a stone
with all that aside, i took the 'stone' to refer a gravestone, and how the subject was looking for forgiveness for something he did to someone that was buried, and so he was only talking to a stone
guys,
there's another religion pray for forgiveness. And they pray the stone. I'm not christian. That religion is ISLAM. there's a black stone at their holy place.
guys,
there's another religion pray for forgiveness. And they pray the stone. I'm not christian. That religion is ISLAM. there's a black stone at their holy place.
i can see though where the whole non forgiving thing is though i mean, xtains are forgiving yes but there are some holier than thou that give ppl the wrong idea. idk bout the stones though.. like i know that there are some chatholics that do look to icons that help them worship such as the virgin mary... i myself am i christian and go to a school where we study other religions such as islam and i think sataniccupid is going in the right direction.
i can see though where the whole non forgiving thing is though i mean, xtains are forgiving yes but there are some holier than thou that give ppl the wrong idea. idk bout the stones though.. like i know that there are some chatholics that do look to icons that help them worship such as the virgin mary... i myself am i christian and go to a school where we study other religions such as islam and i think sataniccupid is going in the right direction.
Well, no offense xxfcklovexx, but if your school taught you that "chatholics" use "icons to help them worship such as the virgin mary", they misguided you. Everyone, please note that CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP ANYONE BUT GOD. Thus, nobody worships Mary; She is just revered as Christ's mother. This is a huge huge misconception about about Catholicism.
Well, no offense xxfcklovexx, but if your school taught you that "chatholics" use "icons to help them worship such as the virgin mary", they misguided you. Everyone, please note that CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP ANYONE BUT GOD. Thus, nobody worships Mary; She is just revered as Christ's mother. This is a huge huge misconception about about Catholicism.
Sorry to Green Day + fans for the tangent. I am Catholic, and I get that a lot, which is frustrating since it's not at all true.
Sorry to Green Day + fans for the tangent. I am Catholic, and I get that a lot, which is frustrating since it's not at all true.
Also, Billie Joe has been quoted saying (according to him imdb site), "I believe there's a higher power somewhere. I just don't know what it is. I really like a lot of Catholic symbolism. Me and Adrienne collect a lot of crucifixes and rosary beads and stuff like that. In our house, we have a lot of candles and stuff like that."
Not that Green Day is afraid to hit Catholicism, but I don't think he's turning a stone into a Catholic icon, especially considering sataniccupid's contribution to the discussion. Thanks by the way, I didn't know that.
i think the whole religion thing is way off i agree with "wintonas" its a grave stone hes asking forgiveness from but its not literal its a simile for intense regret for his actions and their consequences.
i think the whole religion thing is way off i agree with "wintonas" its a grave stone hes asking forgiveness from but its not literal its a simile for intense regret for his actions and their consequences.
if you look at the 3 lines before u can understand it better:
if you look at the 3 lines before u can understand it better:
"Did you try to live on your own
When you burned down the house and home?
Did you stand too close to the fire?
Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone"
"Did you try to live on your own
When you burned down the house and home?
Did you stand too close to the fire?
Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone"
If u take the anti-war line, the house and home represents the institution of the united states or the constitution or whatever, any ethical system really. He thought he was upholding its values but he burnt it to the ground unknowingly. Of course living without some structured ethical system to believe in (living on your own) simply doesn't work.
Now its all well and good to say he was doing the right thing from a distance, but when ur the one burning the house down u realise how misguided u really have been. you get burned also because ur too close (this ties in with the whole "your in ruins" line, referring to his broken spirit and soul).
Finally he compares his remorse to asking for forgiveness from a gravestone, which is of course futile and besides it is far to late to reverse the outcome or change the past.
yea i guess its likely not. but its just my interpretation anyway. kinda like how many people always see the anti war or political message i saw and look for the antireligous. you can take any line and stretch it into whatever you wanna see. anyway songs awesome.
yea i guess its likely not. but its just my interpretation anyway. kinda like how many people always see the anti war or political message i saw and look for the antireligous. you can take any line and stretch it into whatever you wanna see. anyway songs awesome.
yea i guess its likely not. but its just my interpretation anyway. kinda like how many people always see the anti war or political message i saw and look for the antireligous. you can take any line and stretch it into whatever you wanna see. anyway songs awesome.
yea i guess its likely not. but its just my interpretation anyway. kinda like how many people always see the anti war or political message i saw and look for the antireligous. you can take any line and stretch it into whatever you wanna see. anyway songs awesome.
liars get forgiveness through a stone in only one way i can think of: being stoned. it's saying that the only way this world forgives is through condemnation and judgment on one another.
liars get forgiveness through a stone in only one way i can think of: being stoned. it's saying that the only way this world forgives is through condemnation and judgment on one another.
I think you are right. It's another hit at Christianity. And the stone in this I think is the 10 Commandments stone. But that is just my guess, since I am not Christian I don't really know whom one would beg for forgiveness from.
I think you are right. It's another hit at Christianity. And the stone in this I think is the 10 Commandments stone. But that is just my guess, since I am not Christian I don't really know whom one would beg for forgiveness from.
this is liberal doesn't care what religion you are, the stone is gravestone that been killed, ask forgiveness to the death something that doesn't reply to you.. stop the kill or just be kill
this is liberal doesn't care what religion you are, the stone is gravestone that been killed, ask forgiveness to the death something that doesn't reply to you.. stop the kill or just be kill
i dont apreciate ppl judging others by relogion...im a baptist, a strong christian and proud of it!!!!!!!...but you have to take in to concideration that christanity is not the only religion...we do not worship crosses...but the cross represents that Jesus died for our sins and is a reminder of the Gift that He has given us...i have been taught about many other religions and i do know that some worship idols...
i dont apreciate ppl judging others by relogion...im a baptist, a strong christian and proud of it!!!!!!!...but you have to take in to concideration that christanity is not the only religion...we do not worship crosses...but the cross represents that Jesus died for our sins and is a reminder of the Gift that He has given us...i have been taught about many other religions and i do know that some worship idols...
this is a wonderful song and im hooked...i believe that it has very mixed meanings...it points to the issue with Christian and Gloria...but then again it has many lines that deal with war and forgiveness...and most of the song goes to bothe sides...like i said...i believe that it points to both of the issues and many issues that we do not reconize are in there....we could be missing the point of the song completely!...but i am finding some of my own assumptions and belief it the song, the meanings that some on here are stating, yet there are some things that ppl are saying on here that i just DO NOT BELIEVE!
in a interview with mike dirnt he said that the album was not a concept album in whole but all the songs are related. the album does not actually follow a story but the songs often refer to each other, im pretty sure it's about Christian and Gloria
in a interview with mike dirnt he said that the album was not a concept album in whole but all the songs are related. the album does not actually follow a story but the songs often refer to each other, im pretty sure it's about Christian and Gloria
"Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone."
Many have been saying it's a jab at Christianity. Don't worry fellow Christians who enjoy this song. It's not in the slightest. Here's why.
"Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone."
Many have been saying it's a jab at Christianity. Don't worry fellow Christians who enjoy this song. It's not in the slightest. Here's why.
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Billie (the singer/writer of the song) has already stated previously that he's been there, so this entire song also implies to him. I know for a fact he is not Christian.
When he says looking for forgiveness from a stone he's reffering to what or who he is standing against. He has already given up, but the person is still attacking. ("Burned down house and home.") He asks the person to show mercy, but the person continues. This is asking a stone for forgiveness. THe person is like a stone in the way he can't/won't forgive him so it's pointless.
we all have our own interpretations of the song. and i respect that you just thought of another interpretation other than anti war. but please, next time you say what you think, think again before you say it..you never know how many Christians or people you accidentally hurt because of that. if you really have a religion, you must learn how to respect other religion. or if you don't have one, this is a request from me, just try asking yourself why you're here in this world and who can actually create the universe and put you into it. you...
we all have our own interpretations of the song. and i respect that you just thought of another interpretation other than anti war. but please, next time you say what you think, think again before you say it..you never know how many Christians or people you accidentally hurt because of that. if you really have a religion, you must learn how to respect other religion. or if you don't have one, this is a request from me, just try asking yourself why you're here in this world and who can actually create the universe and put you into it. you don't just breathe to grow biologically, achieve something in life then die. maybe you'll come to your senses and actually be a christian someday. i believe God forgives anyone and accepts their repentance. Just call Him anytime you want. i pray for your wellness. God bless you.
I'd like to point out to walkingparadox that while Catholics don't technically worship people like Mary or any of the saints the there is however a large amount of iconography in Catholic churches and other Catholic building and it is customary for Catholics to pray to various saint depending on what they might be the patron of. This is actually one of the main reasons that protestantism was created. Also to onesimus i think that it's totally hypocritical of you to say that people should respect each others religions and then immediately tell atheists to reconsider their views, Respecting peoples...
I'd like to point out to walkingparadox that while Catholics don't technically worship people like Mary or any of the saints the there is however a large amount of iconography in Catholic churches and other Catholic building and it is customary for Catholics to pray to various saint depending on what they might be the patron of. This is actually one of the main reasons that protestantism was created. Also to onesimus i think that it's totally hypocritical of you to say that people should respect each others religions and then immediately tell atheists to reconsider their views, Respecting peoples religion also means respecting people lack of religion.
To everyone else I'm to have used so much space talking about something unrelated to the song so I'll say that I don't really care what the song is about but i enjoy listening to it.
I would just like to say I agreed with edtoaster's comment about how the stone is in fact a gravestone. In war, people are killed. One killed there is no way to ask forgiveness from the dead. All is left is possibly a grave stone, not even that if the person is MIA for eternity.
I would just like to say I agreed with edtoaster's comment about how the stone is in fact a gravestone. In war, people are killed. One killed there is no way to ask forgiveness from the dead. All is left is possibly a grave stone, not even that if the person is MIA for eternity.
As well, I would like to comment on onesimus' reply. Everyone does have their own religion and should respect others and their religions and not hold judgment or resentment against them for it. Everyone has a right to choose their own religion, regardless of what it is. Just because you believe in God does not mean others have to. And just because others don't believe in Him, doesn't mean they are wrong. Some people don't need "God" to bless them.
@Tigreen555
I thought it was talking about Islam. Live on their own laws. Burning into the hell fire if you disbelieve. and Joe thinks that is like a lier looking for forgiveness from the blackstone (Al-hajr Al-aswad) but hell no. nothing to do with religions. It was talking about someone's looking for forgiveness from a gravestone (the dead) and you get nothing. There was no reply. This song is same as Islam... talks about peace. No war. The blackstone in Islam is not give you anything, anyway.
@Tigreen555
I thought it was talking about Islam. Live on their own laws. Burning into the hell fire if you disbelieve. and Joe thinks that is like a lier looking for forgiveness from the blackstone (Al-hajr Al-aswad) but hell no. nothing to do with religions. It was talking about someone's looking for forgiveness from a gravestone (the dead) and you get nothing. There was no reply. This song is same as Islam... talks about peace. No war. The blackstone in Islam is not give you anything, anyway.
Wow great song. hooked instantly with the "1..., 21 guns." Could and should be released as 3rd or 4th single. Obviously antiwar or it could be about C&G(christian and gloria) situation. knowing what your fighting for and is it worth your life.
"Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone". I really really love this line. I think its another stab at christianity and how christians look at jesus as a source of forgiveness. and their statues and crosses are the stones. thats my take in reading it at least. awesome either way.
wow a never thought about c&g in this song i only thought about the no war mind of green day and could possibly be about c&g
wow a never thought about c&g in this song i only thought about the no war mind of green day and could possibly be about c&g
Ok, I really don't know what your getting at with Christian statues and crosses being stones... but the biggest problem with your theory is the whole thing about Christians lying about saying they're forgiving. I don't care if Green Day is ragging on that or not, people who think that's true are really kinda ignorant about how true Christianity is. If you meet a Christian who isn't forgiving, then that's not a good Christian, and not someone who you should put as an example for all of Christianity.
Ok, I really don't know what your getting at with Christian statues and crosses being stones... but the biggest problem with your theory is the whole thing about Christians lying about saying they're forgiving. I don't care if Green Day is ragging on that or not, people who think that's true are really kinda ignorant about how true Christianity is. If you meet a Christian who isn't forgiving, then that's not a good Christian, and not someone who you should put as an example for all of Christianity.
I just find it kind of insulting that this has become the stereotype for all Christians, when it's far from the truth.
undercanvaswraps,you're my hero.
undercanvaswraps,you're my hero.
You might be on to something there with the whole "looking for forgiveness from a stone" thing, but you are way off with the Christianity thing. Christians don't look for forgiveness from a stone (or a cross or a statues for that matter), that's "idol worship" which is, FYI, not Christianity. But awesome song, regardless of the incorrect assumptions people are making of it.
You might be on to something there with the whole "looking for forgiveness from a stone" thing, but you are way off with the Christianity thing. Christians don't look for forgiveness from a stone (or a cross or a statues for that matter), that's "idol worship" which is, FYI, not Christianity. But awesome song, regardless of the incorrect assumptions people are making of it.
i agree, it could b about it christianity, and to the guys who replied to this, every1 knows that christians dont actually pray to the statues, and if they don't then they're very ignorant. If this line is about C&G then i would say one of them lied and is remorseful about it and is trying to get forgiveness from the other, who is being cold and emotionless (stone)
i agree, it could b about it christianity, and to the guys who replied to this, every1 knows that christians dont actually pray to the statues, and if they don't then they're very ignorant. If this line is about C&G then i would say one of them lied and is remorseful about it and is trying to get forgiveness from the other, who is being cold and emotionless (stone)
undercanvaswraps, nice job :)
undercanvaswraps, nice job :)
with all that aside, i took the 'stone' to refer a gravestone, and how the subject was looking for forgiveness for something he did to someone that was buried, and so he was only talking to a stone
with all that aside, i took the 'stone' to refer a gravestone, and how the subject was looking for forgiveness for something he did to someone that was buried, and so he was only talking to a stone
guys, there's another religion pray for forgiveness. And they pray the stone. I'm not christian. That religion is ISLAM. there's a black stone at their holy place.
guys, there's another religion pray for forgiveness. And they pray the stone. I'm not christian. That religion is ISLAM. there's a black stone at their holy place.
i can see though where the whole non forgiving thing is though i mean, xtains are forgiving yes but there are some holier than thou that give ppl the wrong idea. idk bout the stones though.. like i know that there are some chatholics that do look to icons that help them worship such as the virgin mary... i myself am i christian and go to a school where we study other religions such as islam and i think sataniccupid is going in the right direction.
i can see though where the whole non forgiving thing is though i mean, xtains are forgiving yes but there are some holier than thou that give ppl the wrong idea. idk bout the stones though.. like i know that there are some chatholics that do look to icons that help them worship such as the virgin mary... i myself am i christian and go to a school where we study other religions such as islam and i think sataniccupid is going in the right direction.
Thank you, undercanvas wraps.
Thank you, undercanvas wraps.
Well, no offense xxfcklovexx, but if your school taught you that "chatholics" use "icons to help them worship such as the virgin mary", they misguided you. Everyone, please note that CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP ANYONE BUT GOD. Thus, nobody worships Mary; She is just revered as Christ's mother. This is a huge huge misconception about about Catholicism.
Well, no offense xxfcklovexx, but if your school taught you that "chatholics" use "icons to help them worship such as the virgin mary", they misguided you. Everyone, please note that CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP ANYONE BUT GOD. Thus, nobody worships Mary; She is just revered as Christ's mother. This is a huge huge misconception about about Catholicism.
Sorry to Green Day + fans for the tangent. I am Catholic, and I get that a lot, which is frustrating since it's not at all true.
Sorry to Green Day + fans for the tangent. I am Catholic, and I get that a lot, which is frustrating since it's not at all true.
Also, Billie Joe has been quoted saying (according to him imdb site), "I believe there's a higher power somewhere. I just don't know what it is. I really like a lot of Catholic symbolism. Me and Adrienne collect a lot of crucifixes and rosary beads and stuff like that. In our house, we have a lot of candles and stuff like that."
Not that Green Day is afraid to hit Catholicism, but I don't think he's turning a stone into a Catholic icon, especially considering sataniccupid's contribution to the discussion. Thanks by the way, I didn't know that.
p.s. Good song.
*his imdb site, my bad
*his imdb site, my bad
i think the whole religion thing is way off i agree with "wintonas" its a grave stone hes asking forgiveness from but its not literal its a simile for intense regret for his actions and their consequences.
i think the whole religion thing is way off i agree with "wintonas" its a grave stone hes asking forgiveness from but its not literal its a simile for intense regret for his actions and their consequences.
if you look at the 3 lines before u can understand it better:
if you look at the 3 lines before u can understand it better:
"Did you try to live on your own When you burned down the house and home? Did you stand too close to the fire? Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone"
"Did you try to live on your own When you burned down the house and home? Did you stand too close to the fire? Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone"
If u take the anti-war line, the house and home represents the institution of the united states or the constitution or whatever, any ethical system really. He thought he was upholding its values but he burnt it to the ground unknowingly. Of course living without some structured ethical system to believe in (living on your own) simply doesn't work. Now its all well and good to say he was doing the right thing from a distance, but when ur the one burning the house down u realise how misguided u really have been. you get burned also because ur too close (this ties in with the whole "your in ruins" line, referring to his broken spirit and soul). Finally he compares his remorse to asking for forgiveness from a gravestone, which is of course futile and besides it is far to late to reverse the outcome or change the past.
yea i guess its likely not. but its just my interpretation anyway. kinda like how many people always see the anti war or political message i saw and look for the antireligous. you can take any line and stretch it into whatever you wanna see. anyway songs awesome.
yea i guess its likely not. but its just my interpretation anyway. kinda like how many people always see the anti war or political message i saw and look for the antireligous. you can take any line and stretch it into whatever you wanna see. anyway songs awesome.
yea i guess its likely not. but its just my interpretation anyway. kinda like how many people always see the anti war or political message i saw and look for the antireligous. you can take any line and stretch it into whatever you wanna see. anyway songs awesome.
yea i guess its likely not. but its just my interpretation anyway. kinda like how many people always see the anti war or political message i saw and look for the antireligous. you can take any line and stretch it into whatever you wanna see. anyway songs awesome.
liars get forgiveness through a stone in only one way i can think of: being stoned. it's saying that the only way this world forgives is through condemnation and judgment on one another.
liars get forgiveness through a stone in only one way i can think of: being stoned. it's saying that the only way this world forgives is through condemnation and judgment on one another.
I think you are right. It's another hit at Christianity. And the stone in this I think is the 10 Commandments stone. But that is just my guess, since I am not Christian I don't really know whom one would beg for forgiveness from.
I think you are right. It's another hit at Christianity. And the stone in this I think is the 10 Commandments stone. But that is just my guess, since I am not Christian I don't really know whom one would beg for forgiveness from.
this is liberal doesn't care what religion you are, the stone is gravestone that been killed, ask forgiveness to the death something that doesn't reply to you.. stop the kill or just be kill
this is liberal doesn't care what religion you are, the stone is gravestone that been killed, ask forgiveness to the death something that doesn't reply to you.. stop the kill or just be kill
i dont apreciate ppl judging others by relogion...im a baptist, a strong christian and proud of it!!!!!!!...but you have to take in to concideration that christanity is not the only religion...we do not worship crosses...but the cross represents that Jesus died for our sins and is a reminder of the Gift that He has given us...i have been taught about many other religions and i do know that some worship idols...
i dont apreciate ppl judging others by relogion...im a baptist, a strong christian and proud of it!!!!!!!...but you have to take in to concideration that christanity is not the only religion...we do not worship crosses...but the cross represents that Jesus died for our sins and is a reminder of the Gift that He has given us...i have been taught about many other religions and i do know that some worship idols...
this is a wonderful song and im hooked...i believe that it has very mixed meanings...it points to the issue with Christian and Gloria...but then again it has many lines that deal with war and forgiveness...and most of the song goes to bothe sides...like i said...i believe that it points to both of the issues and many issues that we do not reconize are in there....we could be missing the point of the song completely!...but i am finding some of my own assumptions and belief it the song, the meanings that some on here are stating, yet there are some things that ppl are saying on here that i just DO NOT BELIEVE!
in a interview with mike dirnt he said that the album was not a concept album in whole but all the songs are related. the album does not actually follow a story but the songs often refer to each other, im pretty sure it's about Christian and Gloria
in a interview with mike dirnt he said that the album was not a concept album in whole but all the songs are related. the album does not actually follow a story but the songs often refer to each other, im pretty sure it's about Christian and Gloria
"Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone." Many have been saying it's a jab at Christianity. Don't worry fellow Christians who enjoy this song. It's not in the slightest. Here's why.
"Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone." Many have been saying it's a jab at Christianity. Don't worry fellow Christians who enjoy this song. It's not in the slightest. Here's why.
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we all have our own interpretations of the song. and i respect that you just thought of another interpretation other than anti war. but please, next time you say what you think, think again before you say it..you never know how many Christians or people you accidentally hurt because of that. if you really have a religion, you must learn how to respect other religion. or if you don't have one, this is a request from me, just try asking yourself why you're here in this world and who can actually create the universe and put you into it. you...
we all have our own interpretations of the song. and i respect that you just thought of another interpretation other than anti war. but please, next time you say what you think, think again before you say it..you never know how many Christians or people you accidentally hurt because of that. if you really have a religion, you must learn how to respect other religion. or if you don't have one, this is a request from me, just try asking yourself why you're here in this world and who can actually create the universe and put you into it. you don't just breathe to grow biologically, achieve something in life then die. maybe you'll come to your senses and actually be a christian someday. i believe God forgives anyone and accepts their repentance. Just call Him anytime you want. i pray for your wellness. God bless you.
I'd like to point out to walkingparadox that while Catholics don't technically worship people like Mary or any of the saints the there is however a large amount of iconography in Catholic churches and other Catholic building and it is customary for Catholics to pray to various saint depending on what they might be the patron of. This is actually one of the main reasons that protestantism was created. Also to onesimus i think that it's totally hypocritical of you to say that people should respect each others religions and then immediately tell atheists to reconsider their views, Respecting peoples...
I'd like to point out to walkingparadox that while Catholics don't technically worship people like Mary or any of the saints the there is however a large amount of iconography in Catholic churches and other Catholic building and it is customary for Catholics to pray to various saint depending on what they might be the patron of. This is actually one of the main reasons that protestantism was created. Also to onesimus i think that it's totally hypocritical of you to say that people should respect each others religions and then immediately tell atheists to reconsider their views, Respecting peoples religion also means respecting people lack of religion.
To everyone else I'm to have used so much space talking about something unrelated to the song so I'll say that I don't really care what the song is about but i enjoy listening to it.
I would just like to say I agreed with edtoaster's comment about how the stone is in fact a gravestone. In war, people are killed. One killed there is no way to ask forgiveness from the dead. All is left is possibly a grave stone, not even that if the person is MIA for eternity.
I would just like to say I agreed with edtoaster's comment about how the stone is in fact a gravestone. In war, people are killed. One killed there is no way to ask forgiveness from the dead. All is left is possibly a grave stone, not even that if the person is MIA for eternity.
As well, I would like to comment on onesimus' reply. Everyone does have their own religion and should respect others and their religions and not hold judgment or resentment against them for it. Everyone has a right to choose their own religion, regardless of what it is. Just because you believe in God does not mean others have to. And just because others don't believe in Him, doesn't mean they are wrong. Some people don't need "God" to bless them.
Lamee
Lamee
@Tigreen555 I thought it was talking about Islam. Live on their own laws. Burning into the hell fire if you disbelieve. and Joe thinks that is like a lier looking for forgiveness from the blackstone (Al-hajr Al-aswad) but hell no. nothing to do with religions. It was talking about someone's looking for forgiveness from a gravestone (the dead) and you get nothing. There was no reply. This song is same as Islam... talks about peace. No war. The blackstone in Islam is not give you anything, anyway.
@Tigreen555 I thought it was talking about Islam. Live on their own laws. Burning into the hell fire if you disbelieve. and Joe thinks that is like a lier looking for forgiveness from the blackstone (Al-hajr Al-aswad) but hell no. nothing to do with religions. It was talking about someone's looking for forgiveness from a gravestone (the dead) and you get nothing. There was no reply. This song is same as Islam... talks about peace. No war. The blackstone in Islam is not give you anything, anyway.