In my opinion I completely disagree with the other comments, it seems to me that the song has religious contexts - can you kneel before the king and say "I'm clean".
It seems like a Christian is having a hard time with the whole no sex before marriage thing, the other comments make sense if the king line wasn't in the song.
I think you got it. This is a man railing (with a "swelling rage") against a God who gives him sexual feelings, then bars him from acting on them (with the threat he will no longer be "clean" enough to bow before the "king" aka God, if he acts on them).
I think you got it. This is a man railing (with a "swelling rage") against a God who gives him sexual feelings, then bars him from acting on them (with the threat he will no longer be "clean" enough to bow before the "king" aka God, if he acts on them).
The man feels God is punishing him for his faith: "where was my fault
In loving you with all my heart?" If the man had never been religious, he would never have felt the unpleasant guilt, and could just have enjoyed his sexuality.
He feels his love for the girl is beautiful and natural, and asks God to tell him the truth about the contradiction: "Lead me to the truth and I will follow you with my whole life."
Implicit in this is that if God doesn't clarify his confusion soon, this man is going to turn atheist.
I agree, this song especially, to me has a religious undertone! In my opinion this is a man struggling with his beliefs "tell me now where was my fault in loving you with my whole heart" I believe this is a man who has been through some shit in his life and is questioning it all god/religion and why we all still seem to suffer after giving our hearts to the big man! "a white blank page and a swelling rage...RAGE". The whole album is filled with biblical reference "Lead me to the truth and i will follow you with...
I agree, this song especially, to me has a religious undertone! In my opinion this is a man struggling with his beliefs "tell me now where was my fault in loving you with my whole heart" I believe this is a man who has been through some shit in his life and is questioning it all god/religion and why we all still seem to suffer after giving our hearts to the big man! "a white blank page and a swelling rage...RAGE". The whole album is filled with biblical reference "Lead me to the truth and i will follow you with all my heart". looking at their religeous background the schools they went it makes sense to me!!! well that's my take on this amazing tune.
I agree with this one the most. At first though, I only saw it for my situation.
"Can you lie next to her? And give her your heart, your heart, as well as your body?"
It's something I want guys to asks themselves before they try to have sex with me. Or not even sex, just the fact that most guys want to hook up but they don't want to show any emotion. (You desired my attention but denied my affections) But then once you put everything together, it's clear that a man's in a battle between his mind and body, or...
I agree with this one the most. At first though, I only saw it for my situation.
"Can you lie next to her? And give her your heart, your heart, as well as your body?"
It's something I want guys to asks themselves before they try to have sex with me. Or not even sex, just the fact that most guys want to hook up but they don't want to show any emotion. (You desired my attention but denied my affections) But then once you put everything together, it's clear that a man's in a battle between his mind and body, or desires vs. religion. Either way, love this song
I think you are right about there being a religious message, but wrong about most of the rest. Don't you all see this is a song sung by a man about another man? And being "clean" in front of God (the king) means not being homosexual. So a homosexual man is in love with a man who is with a woman, but probably flirted or led the gay man on. I love this song, but am amused when people don't see it's about homosexual love.
I think you are right about there being a religious message, but wrong about most of the rest. Don't you all see this is a song sung by a man about another man? And being "clean" in front of God (the king) means not being homosexual. So a homosexual man is in love with a man who is with a woman, but probably flirted or led the gay man on. I love this song, but am amused when people don't see it's about homosexual love.
I agree with Stephen on this mostly. I think the line about "her white blank page" is directly related to some feeling I've had before. I always take note of clean, pure girls, (not because its some twisted take away their purity thing, but I have more respect for them and there's one right now that I think I like)
I agree with Stephen on this mostly. I think the line about "her white blank page" is directly related to some feeling I've had before. I always take note of clean, pure girls, (not because its some twisted take away their purity thing, but I have more respect for them and there's one right now that I think I like)
So I think that lyric is saying how she was perfect for him with her purity and cleanliness.
So I think that lyric is saying how she was perfect for him with her purity and cleanliness.
I agree. However, i think this song is addressed to the girl. They were together and she "desired" his attention but "denied" his affection. Because of her religious beliefs, the girl in this song denied the singer's offer of love, sex. This song is about the mans internal struggle with this notion. He thinks that his expression of love is a good thing. The blank white page is the girls virginity, and when the singer mentions rage, he is showing how the girl's virginity is responding to him. I feel like the relationship ended because of this....
I agree. However, i think this song is addressed to the girl. They were together and she "desired" his attention but "denied" his affection. Because of her religious beliefs, the girl in this song denied the singer's offer of love, sex. This song is about the mans internal struggle with this notion. He thinks that his expression of love is a good thing. The blank white page is the girls virginity, and when the singer mentions rage, he is showing how the girl's virginity is responding to him. I feel like the relationship ended because of this.
@Stephen_Bradley I agree with Stephen, and with some of the rest. I think the first part is an internal dialogue, where the author is struggling with his physical desires as well as the expectation of God, that sex is only meant for marriage! If he was struggling with homosexuality it doesn't change much either, but I think his talking to himself in the first part.
@Stephen_Bradley I agree with Stephen, and with some of the rest. I think the first part is an internal dialogue, where the author is struggling with his physical desires as well as the expectation of God, that sex is only meant for marriage! If he was struggling with homosexuality it doesn't change much either, but I think his talking to himself in the first part.
The general idea I got is just a man that knows God's plan, but can't see how it fits with his feelings, urges, thoughts. His feelings makes it feel right and real, yet the King tells him it's wrong. So, his body and his mind are telling him one thing, but the ultimate question is whether he can defend himself before the King.
I might be totally wrong on this, but I think the attention and affections, might be referring to people saying that they want to sleep with someone because of love, but in doing that they are leading them down a path of ruin thus they are exposed as wanting attention more than affection... lust over love.
In all of these struggles I think the author knows that he is missing something and he knows he is wrong - and he is not jsut looking for happy feel-good answers, but he is looking for a Truth that he understands and can follow with his whole life. Before he really understands that I think he feels like he's denying himself for no real reason at all.
God created marriage and sex as a beautiful expression of His G0spel - Eph 5:22-33 - and in that we will be most happy. But that is a difficult thing to grasp.
@Stephen_Bradley Nice idea, and it may have religious undertones but they have specifically said they don't make "christian" music even though the cultural christian elements are there. But a song means to you whatever it means, so if that is your take on it that is valid. That's the beauty of music.
@Stephen_Bradley Nice idea, and it may have religious undertones but they have specifically said they don't make "christian" music even though the cultural christian elements are there. But a song means to you whatever it means, so if that is your take on it that is valid. That's the beauty of music.
In my opinion I completely disagree with the other comments, it seems to me that the song has religious contexts - can you kneel before the king and say "I'm clean".
It seems like a Christian is having a hard time with the whole no sex before marriage thing, the other comments make sense if the king line wasn't in the song.
Just an idea.
I think you got it. This is a man railing (with a "swelling rage") against a God who gives him sexual feelings, then bars him from acting on them (with the threat he will no longer be "clean" enough to bow before the "king" aka God, if he acts on them).
I think you got it. This is a man railing (with a "swelling rage") against a God who gives him sexual feelings, then bars him from acting on them (with the threat he will no longer be "clean" enough to bow before the "king" aka God, if he acts on them).
The man feels God is punishing him for his faith: "where was my fault In loving you with all my heart?" If the man had never been religious, he would never have felt the unpleasant guilt, and could just have enjoyed his sexuality.
He feels his love for the girl is beautiful and natural, and asks God to tell him the truth about the contradiction: "Lead me to the truth and I will follow you with my whole life."
Implicit in this is that if God doesn't clarify his confusion soon, this man is going to turn atheist.
I agree, this song especially, to me has a religious undertone! In my opinion this is a man struggling with his beliefs "tell me now where was my fault in loving you with my whole heart" I believe this is a man who has been through some shit in his life and is questioning it all god/religion and why we all still seem to suffer after giving our hearts to the big man! "a white blank page and a swelling rage...RAGE". The whole album is filled with biblical reference "Lead me to the truth and i will follow you with...
I agree, this song especially, to me has a religious undertone! In my opinion this is a man struggling with his beliefs "tell me now where was my fault in loving you with my whole heart" I believe this is a man who has been through some shit in his life and is questioning it all god/religion and why we all still seem to suffer after giving our hearts to the big man! "a white blank page and a swelling rage...RAGE". The whole album is filled with biblical reference "Lead me to the truth and i will follow you with all my heart". looking at their religeous background the schools they went it makes sense to me!!! well that's my take on this amazing tune.
I agree with this one the most. At first though, I only saw it for my situation. "Can you lie next to her? And give her your heart, your heart, as well as your body?" It's something I want guys to asks themselves before they try to have sex with me. Or not even sex, just the fact that most guys want to hook up but they don't want to show any emotion. (You desired my attention but denied my affections) But then once you put everything together, it's clear that a man's in a battle between his mind and body, or...
I agree with this one the most. At first though, I only saw it for my situation. "Can you lie next to her? And give her your heart, your heart, as well as your body?" It's something I want guys to asks themselves before they try to have sex with me. Or not even sex, just the fact that most guys want to hook up but they don't want to show any emotion. (You desired my attention but denied my affections) But then once you put everything together, it's clear that a man's in a battle between his mind and body, or desires vs. religion. Either way, love this song
I think you are right about there being a religious message, but wrong about most of the rest. Don't you all see this is a song sung by a man about another man? And being "clean" in front of God (the king) means not being homosexual. So a homosexual man is in love with a man who is with a woman, but probably flirted or led the gay man on. I love this song, but am amused when people don't see it's about homosexual love.
I think you are right about there being a religious message, but wrong about most of the rest. Don't you all see this is a song sung by a man about another man? And being "clean" in front of God (the king) means not being homosexual. So a homosexual man is in love with a man who is with a woman, but probably flirted or led the gay man on. I love this song, but am amused when people don't see it's about homosexual love.
I agree with Stephen on this mostly. I think the line about "her white blank page" is directly related to some feeling I've had before. I always take note of clean, pure girls, (not because its some twisted take away their purity thing, but I have more respect for them and there's one right now that I think I like)
I agree with Stephen on this mostly. I think the line about "her white blank page" is directly related to some feeling I've had before. I always take note of clean, pure girls, (not because its some twisted take away their purity thing, but I have more respect for them and there's one right now that I think I like)
So I think that lyric is saying how she was perfect for him with her purity and cleanliness.
So I think that lyric is saying how she was perfect for him with her purity and cleanliness.
I agree. However, i think this song is addressed to the girl. They were together and she "desired" his attention but "denied" his affection. Because of her religious beliefs, the girl in this song denied the singer's offer of love, sex. This song is about the mans internal struggle with this notion. He thinks that his expression of love is a good thing. The blank white page is the girls virginity, and when the singer mentions rage, he is showing how the girl's virginity is responding to him. I feel like the relationship ended because of this....
I agree. However, i think this song is addressed to the girl. They were together and she "desired" his attention but "denied" his affection. Because of her religious beliefs, the girl in this song denied the singer's offer of love, sex. This song is about the mans internal struggle with this notion. He thinks that his expression of love is a good thing. The blank white page is the girls virginity, and when the singer mentions rage, he is showing how the girl's virginity is responding to him. I feel like the relationship ended because of this.
Nah.
Nah.
Just because someone uses religious imagery, it doesn't mean they are speaking about god.
Just because someone uses religious imagery, it doesn't mean they are speaking about god.
The song talks about the Ego, about standing in front of the innermost core of yourself and judging yourself...
The song talks about the Ego, about standing in front of the innermost core of yourself and judging yourself...
@Stephen_Bradley I agree with Stephen, and with some of the rest. I think the first part is an internal dialogue, where the author is struggling with his physical desires as well as the expectation of God, that sex is only meant for marriage! If he was struggling with homosexuality it doesn't change much either, but I think his talking to himself in the first part.
@Stephen_Bradley I agree with Stephen, and with some of the rest. I think the first part is an internal dialogue, where the author is struggling with his physical desires as well as the expectation of God, that sex is only meant for marriage! If he was struggling with homosexuality it doesn't change much either, but I think his talking to himself in the first part.
The general idea I got is just a man that knows God's plan, but can't see how it fits with his feelings, urges, thoughts. His feelings makes it feel right and real, yet the King tells him it's wrong. So, his body and his mind are telling him one thing, but the ultimate question is whether he can defend himself before the King.
I might be totally wrong on this, but I think the attention and affections, might be referring to people saying that they want to sleep with someone because of love, but in doing that they are leading them down a path of ruin thus they are exposed as wanting attention more than affection... lust over love.
In all of these struggles I think the author knows that he is missing something and he knows he is wrong - and he is not jsut looking for happy feel-good answers, but he is looking for a Truth that he understands and can follow with his whole life. Before he really understands that I think he feels like he's denying himself for no real reason at all.
God created marriage and sex as a beautiful expression of His G0spel - Eph 5:22-33 - and in that we will be most happy. But that is a difficult thing to grasp.
@Stephen_Bradley Nice idea, and it may have religious undertones but they have specifically said they don't make "christian" music even though the cultural christian elements are there. But a song means to you whatever it means, so if that is your take on it that is valid. That's the beauty of music.
@Stephen_Bradley Nice idea, and it may have religious undertones but they have specifically said they don't make "christian" music even though the cultural christian elements are there. But a song means to you whatever it means, so if that is your take on it that is valid. That's the beauty of music.