“Skate a little lower now” is the key line. The song is the internal monologue of the protagonist. Out and about, he’s watching “nineteen,” a lovely stranger, and coming to the realization of some hard truths. All men 30 plus began to have these moments.
@panzer4963\r\n\r\nJust heard this song the other day, and took note of how Aretha Franklin\'s career came back after this song was released, such that even a lot of younger people today know who she was - the irony of that made me want to see if anyone else thought the same, which is why I\'m here.\r\n\r\nIn the process of satisfying that bit of curiosity, I have been amused by a lot of the commentary regarding word/phrase choice in the lyrics. And in yet another twist of irony, most of those words being debated here, are of the era; someone who...
@panzer4963\r\n\r\nJust heard this song the other day, and took note of how Aretha Franklin\'s career came back after this song was released, such that even a lot of younger people today know who she was - the irony of that made me want to see if anyone else thought the same, which is why I\'m here.\r\n\r\nIn the process of satisfying that bit of curiosity, I have been amused by a lot of the commentary regarding word/phrase choice in the lyrics. And in yet another twist of irony, most of those words being debated here, are of the era; someone who lived through the time will know what they mean, but the younger commenters - the \'19s\' - won\'t get the reference, just like in the song itself.\r\n\r\nKeep in mind that Steely Dan delves into double entendre a LOT in their lyrics, so even when the song came out, people debated what some of the words/phrases meant, because they can be taken multiple ways. Purely intentional, they do it all the time in their lyrics.\r\n\r\nAll of that said, this song is very simple - I will borrow this description from some guy named Ronald Kinchion, who posted this on YouTube: "its a trip when you get a little older and go to a club, young ladies will politely let you know how old you really are, you have kids their age, but they still talk to you, and make you feel real old, steely dan captured all that awkwardness in this jam, great song, makes you want to go out and have a midlife crisis."\r\n\r\nThat\'s it really - not a \'creepy old man\' as so many want it to be. Just, as you said, the moment many guys might feel at some age, when it suddenly feels odd to be in a bar surrounded by distinctly younger people, of whom you are no longer a part.\r\n\r\nThat said, it isn\'t even clear to me if the older dude is hitting on the younger girl, or if she slid on down the bar to start the conversation with him ("slide on down" is another double entendre, of course, but the primary meaning is simply to move down the bar to sit next to someone... do people not say that anymore?). I\'m pushing 60 now, but well into my 40s, I had \'19s\' slide on the down the bar to test the water... and yeah, sometimes I would bite, but "Ain\'t nothin\' wrong with that" (which of course, ages me too - Robert Randolph is my \'Retha Franklin).\r\n\r\nA few other things, because I\'m old and remember...\r\n\r\nFine Colombian is 100% weed, NOT coke - specifically Colombian Gold. There was no ambiguity of meaning intended here, as EVERYONE of the era knew what \'fine Colombian\' was - no one here is debating what Cuervo means, and this is in the same category.\r\n\r\nGamma Chi is not a frat, it is a sorority reference (specifically, sorority recruiters), hence the next line of the song.\r\n\r\nSole survivor has double meaning, referencing the R&B band of his \'dandy\' era, when Franklin reigned as Queen of Soul.\r\n\r\nSkate a little lower is double entendre again: \'skate\' was popular slang of the time, which could mean many things, but broadly meant \'get.\' In this context, it is metaphorical - this is in a bar, not a skating rink - but basically means he is open to getting it on with the younger woman, and getting increasingly turned on by her. Call it creepy if you will, I will call it human physiology at work.\r\n\r\nIn the end, it\'s all just about "growing old."\r\n\r\nI read some tripe elsewhere from some joker trying to argue the song is all about wealthy white privilege - subconsciously no less. What a bunch of laughable crap!\r\n\r\nYes, Steely Dan intentionally uses ambiguous language, in many of their songs, but this one is not murky.\r\n\r\nit is simply about the awkwardness of realizing that we all grow old, and perhaps consensually enjoying a youthful moment or two while still on the edge of that divide: no longer in the light of youth, nor darkness of senescence, but in the penumbral shadows of fading twilight.\r\n\r\nPeople try to make more of it than is there, but there is enough. Maybe you have to have experienced this process of aging, to see this for what it is - it\'s not creepy, it\'s more just wistfully sad.
“Skate a little lower now” is the key line. The song is the internal monologue of the protagonist. Out and about, he’s watching “nineteen,” a lovely stranger, and coming to the realization of some hard truths. All men 30 plus began to have these moments.
@panzer4963\r\n\r\nJust heard this song the other day, and took note of how Aretha Franklin\'s career came back after this song was released, such that even a lot of younger people today know who she was - the irony of that made me want to see if anyone else thought the same, which is why I\'m here.\r\n\r\nIn the process of satisfying that bit of curiosity, I have been amused by a lot of the commentary regarding word/phrase choice in the lyrics. And in yet another twist of irony, most of those words being debated here, are of the era; someone who...
@panzer4963\r\n\r\nJust heard this song the other day, and took note of how Aretha Franklin\'s career came back after this song was released, such that even a lot of younger people today know who she was - the irony of that made me want to see if anyone else thought the same, which is why I\'m here.\r\n\r\nIn the process of satisfying that bit of curiosity, I have been amused by a lot of the commentary regarding word/phrase choice in the lyrics. And in yet another twist of irony, most of those words being debated here, are of the era; someone who lived through the time will know what they mean, but the younger commenters - the \'19s\' - won\'t get the reference, just like in the song itself.\r\n\r\nKeep in mind that Steely Dan delves into double entendre a LOT in their lyrics, so even when the song came out, people debated what some of the words/phrases meant, because they can be taken multiple ways. Purely intentional, they do it all the time in their lyrics.\r\n\r\nAll of that said, this song is very simple - I will borrow this description from some guy named Ronald Kinchion, who posted this on YouTube: "its a trip when you get a little older and go to a club, young ladies will politely let you know how old you really are, you have kids their age, but they still talk to you, and make you feel real old, steely dan captured all that awkwardness in this jam, great song, makes you want to go out and have a midlife crisis."\r\n\r\nThat\'s it really - not a \'creepy old man\' as so many want it to be. Just, as you said, the moment many guys might feel at some age, when it suddenly feels odd to be in a bar surrounded by distinctly younger people, of whom you are no longer a part.\r\n\r\nThat said, it isn\'t even clear to me if the older dude is hitting on the younger girl, or if she slid on down the bar to start the conversation with him ("slide on down" is another double entendre, of course, but the primary meaning is simply to move down the bar to sit next to someone... do people not say that anymore?). I\'m pushing 60 now, but well into my 40s, I had \'19s\' slide on the down the bar to test the water... and yeah, sometimes I would bite, but "Ain\'t nothin\' wrong with that" (which of course, ages me too - Robert Randolph is my \'Retha Franklin).\r\n\r\nA few other things, because I\'m old and remember...\r\n\r\nFine Colombian is 100% weed, NOT coke - specifically Colombian Gold. There was no ambiguity of meaning intended here, as EVERYONE of the era knew what \'fine Colombian\' was - no one here is debating what Cuervo means, and this is in the same category.\r\n\r\nGamma Chi is not a frat, it is a sorority reference (specifically, sorority recruiters), hence the next line of the song.\r\n\r\nSole survivor has double meaning, referencing the R&B band of his \'dandy\' era, when Franklin reigned as Queen of Soul.\r\n\r\nSkate a little lower is double entendre again: \'skate\' was popular slang of the time, which could mean many things, but broadly meant \'get.\' In this context, it is metaphorical - this is in a bar, not a skating rink - but basically means he is open to getting it on with the younger woman, and getting increasingly turned on by her. Call it creepy if you will, I will call it human physiology at work.\r\n\r\nIn the end, it\'s all just about "growing old."\r\n\r\nI read some tripe elsewhere from some joker trying to argue the song is all about wealthy white privilege - subconsciously no less. What a bunch of laughable crap!\r\n\r\nYes, Steely Dan intentionally uses ambiguous language, in many of their songs, but this one is not murky.\r\n\r\nit is simply about the awkwardness of realizing that we all grow old, and perhaps consensually enjoying a youthful moment or two while still on the edge of that divide: no longer in the light of youth, nor darkness of senescence, but in the penumbral shadows of fading twilight.\r\n\r\nPeople try to make more of it than is there, but there is enough. Maybe you have to have experienced this process of aging, to see this for what it is - it\'s not creepy, it\'s more just wistfully sad.