Lyric discussion by JesusIsAfterYou 

  1. Craig Finn's personal involvement with the two A. During childhood his involvement with music showed two vastly different aspects of life. I. Raised catholic in suburbs of Twin Cities, environment there a. Sheltered, living (as suburbs were intended to supply) b. Family raised children in strict catholic environment II. Went to punk shows at First Ave, environment there a. Nightlife crowd, addicts, drunks, urban decay b. Punk pseudo-doctrine of rebellion B. People he knew through his involvement with the music scene of the mid-nineties I. Further experience with punk crowd and people met a. Nightlife crowd and all that comes with it b. Now more firsthand involvement and interaction with the scene as opposed to spectator's point of view held previously II. Some people he knew later cleaned up through AA or NA and contrast of before and after a. AA and NA require acceptance of higher power as part of program b. Contrast of previous interactions with them as compared with clean living Christian versions.

i am smiley pope (10:12:32 PM): 2. Significance of name "Gideon" and how this illustrates message A. Background on significance of name I. Gideon the prophet. a. Similar to most new testament prophets b. In the book of Judges, he refocuses Israelites who were worshipping idols II. Modern day Christian sect of Gideons International a. Evangelical Christian group b. distribute bibles, most famously leaving bibles in motels B. Gideon's contrasts and connections to significance of name I. ties to Gideon the prophet in his actions. "He likes the part where the traders get chased out of the temple." a. An action that occurs in every book of the New Testament (Jesus chasing merchants and non worshipers from temples) b. Idea of Jesus refocusing worshipers mirrors actions of Gideon the prophet. c. Shows that something about those passages reverberate for Gideon II. Contrast with sect of Gideon's, "He's got the pages in his pocket that he ripped out of the bible in the bed stand in the motel." a. Irony of Gideon ripping pages from bible left by Gideon's. b. At the same time he is taking pages of a bible for personal use, showing internal conflict shown

  1. Significance of name "Holly" (short for Halleluiah) and how this illustrates message A. Significance of the name I. As a cry of exaltation a. Joyous word in praise of god as opposed to more somber phrases with the same meaning b. Literally translated from Hebrew as "Praise Yah!" "Yah" being short for Yahweh (pronounced Jehovah) B. Holly's actions and contrasts to classical significance of word. I. Significance of passage "She's got the cross around her neck that she ripped off from a school girl in the subway on a visit to the city" a. Much like Gideon, she too mixes the piety of wearing a cross around ones neck, and the sin of theft
    b. Also, use for accenting her cleavage lies in contrast to typical sentiments II. Significance of Holly's being born again a. Entire passage reference to line in the song "Banging Camp"- "He said take a hit; hold your breath and I'll dunk your head. Then when you wake up again, you'll be high as hell and born again. b. Use of the word "program" possibly AA or NA reference, making her finding of god and being born again fit nicely c. Fits into concept of living in sin with the guise of purity, or failing in your search for salvation
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