Lyric discussion by CHOOSE BRONZE 

that's bull$HlT dude, I mean Green Day has their short comings for sure, but seriously man, If anyone has incorporated punk philisophy into the mainstream without completely selling their soul and ideals to the 'man', its green day. They don't write what they think people want to hear, they write what they feel and it happens to be the sentiment of a LOT of people in this country and throughout the world.
You should listen closely to the lyrics of Operation Ivy songs and be sure you actually agree with them before you go raving about how good they are. I mean its fine if you don't agree, but the message of Op Ivy and other punk rock greats is one of Unity, Humbleness, DIY, and generally good treatment of other people and the environment. I thought for a long time about those things and decided that they were in harmony with the way I currently live and intend to live my life, so I went out and got a Unity tattoo, as an homage to OpIvy, but more importantly their message.
Those beliefs arent for everyone, I know that. And they certainly are not the sentiments of George W Bush. If you really support him, enough to brag about it while simultaniously bashing punk rock ideals (yes, green day holds true to punk ideals, thats a whole nother conversation), I think you REALLY need to think long and hard if this music is really expressing your beliefs. Now if I had to pick between the moral examples set forth by Op Ivy or President Bush, I would certainly chose Op Ivy, and I have, but a lot of people choose the other direction and thats fine, until they lose touch with themselves and fall to the level of belittling others for personal gain.
Alls I'm saying is think about it.

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