i know what this song means, cuz i read a quote exactly from him. here's the quote so u understand the song- "Basically, I was trying to write a song that supported women and dealt with the issue of rape. Over the last few years, people have had such a hard time understanding what our message is, what we're trying to convey, that I just decided to be as bold as possible. How hard should I stamp this point? How big should I make the letters? It's not a pretty image. But a woman who is being raped, who is infuriated with the situation . . . it's like "Go ahead, rape me, just go for it, because you're gonna get it." I'm a firm believer in karma, and that motherfucker is going to get what he deserves, eventually. That man will be caught, he'll go to jail, and he'll be raped. So rape me, do it, get it over with. Because you're gonna get it worse."
While I'm inclined to agree that Cobain is serious in the interview you are citing it is important to note that Cobain is known to lie about the meanings of his songs. Cobain also claimed in an interview that Heart-Shaped Box is a song about children with cancer. Interestingly, Cobain has also admitted that some of his lyrics are intentionally non-nonsensical. The technique of randomization adds a sense of powerful (albeit non-existent) symbolism and psychedelia that made a literary "giant" out of author William Burroughs (who incidentally Cobain collaborates with on "The Priest They Called Him"....
While I'm inclined to agree that Cobain is serious in the interview you are citing it is important to note that Cobain is known to lie about the meanings of his songs. Cobain also claimed in an interview that Heart-Shaped Box is a song about children with cancer. Interestingly, Cobain has also admitted that some of his lyrics are intentionally non-nonsensical. The technique of randomization adds a sense of powerful (albeit non-existent) symbolism and psychedelia that made a literary "giant" out of author William Burroughs (who incidentally Cobain collaborates with on "The Priest They Called Him".
@wild_horses724 I think this explanation is accurate. KC was earnest to a fault about feminism. He spoke at length about this song and in relation to others on multiple occasions, as opposed to just brushing off the question with a stack remark someone might be happy enough with if they are stupid enough.
@wild_horses724 I think this explanation is accurate. KC was earnest to a fault about feminism. He spoke at length about this song and in relation to others on multiple occasions, as opposed to just brushing off the question with a stack remark someone might be happy enough with if they are stupid enough.
"a woman who is being raped, who is infuriated with the situation . . . it's like "Go ahead, rape me, just go for it, because you're gonna get it." I'm a firm believer in karma, and that motherfucker is going to get what he deserves, eventually. That man will be caught, he'll go to jail, and he'll be raped. So rape me, do it, get it over with. Because you're gonna get it worse."
"a woman who is being raped, who is infuriated with the situation . . . it's like "Go ahead, rape me, just go for it, because you're gonna get it." I'm a firm believer in karma, and that motherfucker is going to get what he deserves, eventually. That man will be caught, he'll go to jail, and he'll be raped. So rape me, do it, get it over with. Because you're gonna get it worse."
While I wouldn't argue with his statement, I do think there's more to it. I struggle to believe this song is mostly about rape in the literal sense. There's definitely some ambiguity.
While I wouldn't argue with his statement, I do think there's more to it. I struggle to believe this song is mostly about rape in the literal sense. There's definitely some ambiguity.
At the time of its release this was a controversial song, and to make matters worse, a lot of people didn't get it. Some people thought Kurt was condoning rape. He had to defend himself and use his platform properly. Surely, this would have pissed him off enough too where he would make a statement like this. I can't blame him.
At the time of its release this was a controversial song, and to make matters worse, a lot of people didn't get it. Some people thought Kurt was condoning rape. He had to defend himself and use his platform properly. Surely, this would have pissed him off enough too where he would make a statement like this. I can't blame him.
To me, however, this song has always been about "friends" who manipulate and exploit you to no end. The acquisition of success and money surely ruined Kurt's ability to trust people and both establish and keep meaningful relationships.
This song, to me, always seemed like a half-capitulation, half-fuck you kind of song to the people who used him.
i know what this song means, cuz i read a quote exactly from him. here's the quote so u understand the song- "Basically, I was trying to write a song that supported women and dealt with the issue of rape. Over the last few years, people have had such a hard time understanding what our message is, what we're trying to convey, that I just decided to be as bold as possible. How hard should I stamp this point? How big should I make the letters? It's not a pretty image. But a woman who is being raped, who is infuriated with the situation . . . it's like "Go ahead, rape me, just go for it, because you're gonna get it." I'm a firm believer in karma, and that motherfucker is going to get what he deserves, eventually. That man will be caught, he'll go to jail, and he'll be raped. So rape me, do it, get it over with. Because you're gonna get it worse."
While I'm inclined to agree that Cobain is serious in the interview you are citing it is important to note that Cobain is known to lie about the meanings of his songs. Cobain also claimed in an interview that Heart-Shaped Box is a song about children with cancer. Interestingly, Cobain has also admitted that some of his lyrics are intentionally non-nonsensical. The technique of randomization adds a sense of powerful (albeit non-existent) symbolism and psychedelia that made a literary "giant" out of author William Burroughs (who incidentally Cobain collaborates with on "The Priest They Called Him"....
While I'm inclined to agree that Cobain is serious in the interview you are citing it is important to note that Cobain is known to lie about the meanings of his songs. Cobain also claimed in an interview that Heart-Shaped Box is a song about children with cancer. Interestingly, Cobain has also admitted that some of his lyrics are intentionally non-nonsensical. The technique of randomization adds a sense of powerful (albeit non-existent) symbolism and psychedelia that made a literary "giant" out of author William Burroughs (who incidentally Cobain collaborates with on "The Priest They Called Him".
@wild_horses724 I think this explanation is accurate. KC was earnest to a fault about feminism. He spoke at length about this song and in relation to others on multiple occasions, as opposed to just brushing off the question with a stack remark someone might be happy enough with if they are stupid enough.
@wild_horses724 I think this explanation is accurate. KC was earnest to a fault about feminism. He spoke at length about this song and in relation to others on multiple occasions, as opposed to just brushing off the question with a stack remark someone might be happy enough with if they are stupid enough.
@wild_horses724 I agree with you. He was definitely an advocate for women, and gays.
@wild_horses724 I agree with you. He was definitely an advocate for women, and gays.
@wild_horses724 this song definitely has the same sentiment as Date Rape by Sublime, only saying less.
@wild_horses724 this song definitely has the same sentiment as Date Rape by Sublime, only saying less.
"a woman who is being raped, who is infuriated with the situation . . . it's like "Go ahead, rape me, just go for it, because you're gonna get it." I'm a firm believer in karma, and that motherfucker is going to get what he deserves, eventually. That man will be caught, he'll go to jail, and he'll be raped. So rape me, do it, get it over with. Because you're gonna get it worse."
"a woman who is being raped, who is infuriated with the situation . . . it's like "Go ahead, rape me, just go for it, because you're gonna get it." I'm a firm believer in karma, and that motherfucker is going to get what he deserves, eventually. That man will be caught, he'll go to jail, and he'll be raped. So rape me, do it, get it over with. Because you're gonna get it worse."
What a bunch of bull****.
What a bunch of bull****.
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While I wouldn't argue with his statement, I do think there's more to it. I struggle to believe this song is mostly about rape in the literal sense. There's definitely some ambiguity.
While I wouldn't argue with his statement, I do think there's more to it. I struggle to believe this song is mostly about rape in the literal sense. There's definitely some ambiguity.
At the time of its release this was a controversial song, and to make matters worse, a lot of people didn't get it. Some people thought Kurt was condoning rape. He had to defend himself and use his platform properly. Surely, this would have pissed him off enough too where he would make a statement like this. I can't blame him.
At the time of its release this was a controversial song, and to make matters worse, a lot of people didn't get it. Some people thought Kurt was condoning rape. He had to defend himself and use his platform properly. Surely, this would have pissed him off enough too where he would make a statement like this. I can't blame him.
To me, however, this song has always been about "friends" who manipulate and exploit you to no end. The acquisition of success and money surely ruined Kurt's ability to trust people and both establish and keep meaningful relationships.
This song, to me, always seemed like a half-capitulation, half-fuck you kind of song to the people who used him.