Lyric discussion by sd003k 

Jesus refrences fit anything. I don't think there is one here. I think the song is a bit deeper than ya'll think.

First its the sotry of a general. The general's life is to fight. Fighting is his job, duty, and probably the reason the general thinks he exists.

He "sees the others" his opponents and sees we are the same as everyone else. We are all human we all have mothers dying isn't worth it.

He tells his men, who are not living to fight and die but only ordered to at his command, that he has re-thaught his life-- his purpose.

The men, or the common folk, really don't want to fight--thats for the general and the poloticans to do. Most folks just want to live and exsist happily. "the men could go as they please"-- the general releases them from certain death. They are young men they must be living. They are fogiven--they are not the ones messing up to world--its him. Take a shower, shine your shoes-- cleanse yourself. just live happily.

But the general is born to fight and cannot live happily. he exsists to fight-- he has no other purpose, but now he realizes war is evil. "he then prepares to fight." He charges the enemy by himself to certain death. He will die. but his men will live. The war will be over and lives will be saved.

Since there are no more men to lead to battle--and indeed he doesn't want to fight anymore because he realizes everyone is really the same-- his life is essentially over. It doesn't matter if he fights, lives or dies. He essentially dies when his army disbands-- he disbands it and essentially commits suicide in the name of pacifism. I would assume he is forgiven too.

Thats my two cents. Try looking at the story told more than the catch phrases. Most old-school generals had beards that doesn't mean he is jesus.

Granted the way I tell the story with him scarficing himself may seem jesus-like. I guess it could be but I prefer to keep the image of the song as a general not as jesus.

What would the implication be if the general was a jesus figure? Well... it appears jesus is fighting a war? A holy war. In other words the song symbolizes religious wars. But religious wars and forced conversions are bad as per this song. The other are like us. There is no reason to opress the native Americans, the arabs, and others in the name of jesus. The general realizes this in his dream. He realizes his whole life--and exsistence-- is full of "it." The general disbands his followers. The men are no longer in his command--no longer sheep. The general charges and essentially dies. If its jesus like it seems to be that religion destroys itself in this song.

If the general is a jesus figure then the song is anti-religion. The songs meaning would then be that religion doesn't matter and for the most part is foolish because it leads to war. Just live your lives with kindness and compassion for "the other." There is no reason to make yourself a slave to a general who just opresses others.

Jesus refrences aren't allways pro-jesus. -D

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