@[Diderik:33655] "Your a holiday!" Was a popular term used in the 50s/60s to compliment someone on their all around. For example, not only are they beautiful, but they are fun and kind too ... just an all around "holiday".
I think your first comment is closer to being accurate. The singer/song writers state "Millions of eyes can see, yet why am i so blind!? When the someone else is me, its unkind its unkind". I believe hes referring to the girl toying with him and using him. He wants something deeper with her, thats why he allows himself to be as a puppet (even though for her fun and games) as long as it makes her happy. But he knows deep down that she doesnt really want to be serious with him and thats what makes him.
One, two, three, four, one, two
September seventeen
For a girl I know it's Mother's Day
Her son has gone alee
And that's where he will stay
Wind on the weathervane
Tearing blue eyes sailor-mean
As Falstaff sings a sorrowful refrain
For a boy in Fiddler's Green
His tiny knotted heart
Well, I guess it never worked too good
The timber tore apart
And the water gorged the wood
You can hear her whispered prayer
For men at masts that always lean
The same wind that moves her hair
Moves a boy through Fiddler's Green
Oh, nothing's changed anyway
Oh, nothing's changed anyway
Oh, anytime today
He doesn't know a soul
There's nowhere that he's really been
But he won't travel long alone
No, not in Fiddler's Green
Balloons all filled with rain
As children's eyes turn sleepy-mean
And Falstaff sings a sorrowful refrain
For a boy in Fiddler's Green
September seventeen
For a girl I know it's Mother's Day
Her son has gone alee
And that's where he will stay
Wind on the weathervane
Tearing blue eyes sailor-mean
As Falstaff sings a sorrowful refrain
For a boy in Fiddler's Green
His tiny knotted heart
Well, I guess it never worked too good
The timber tore apart
And the water gorged the wood
You can hear her whispered prayer
For men at masts that always lean
The same wind that moves her hair
Moves a boy through Fiddler's Green
Oh, nothing's changed anyway
Oh, nothing's changed anyway
Oh, anytime today
He doesn't know a soul
There's nowhere that he's really been
But he won't travel long alone
No, not in Fiddler's Green
Balloons all filled with rain
As children's eyes turn sleepy-mean
And Falstaff sings a sorrowful refrain
For a boy in Fiddler's Green
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Fiddler's Green Lyrics as written by Gordon Sinclair Gordon Downie
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This song is an elegy for a dead child.
Fiddler's Green is a kind of "sailor's heaven," where sailors go when they die. Downie sticks with the nautical metaphor by suggesting that the child has "gone alee" (downwind) and comparing his heart failure with the sinking of a wooden ship.
There's not much else to say about what this "means."
Folk singer John connolly did a song called "Fiddler's Green" in 1970, which includes these lines: Now Fiddler's Green is a place I've heard tell Where fishermen go when they don't go to Hell Where the weather is fair and the dolphins do play And the cold coast of Greenland is far, far away
Then there's "Final Trawl" by folk singer Archie Fisher: And when I die, you can stow me down In her rusty hold, where the breakers sound Then I'll make the haven and the Fiddler's Green Where the grub is good and the bunks are clean
But the traditional idea of Fiddler's Green is much older than that. It was coopted by landlubbers and appears in an old post-Civil-War U.S. Cavalry song: Halfway down the trail to hell In a shady meadow green, Are the souls of all dead troopers camped Near a good old-time canteen And this eternal resting place Is known as Fiddler's Green.
I think "wonderdog" is related to someone in the Hip. Or is an actually member.
I was at the show in Saskatoon as well. Someone held up a sign requesting that they play Fiddler's Green. Gord acknowledged the sign and stated that they until recently they never ever played this one live as it carried so much pain, and then introduced the song. It was as awesome as you would expect. It is very touching to know how personal this song is for the band... the performance was amazing.
Veteran of 200+ shows here and I've not heard it live once (DANG!). They didn't play it for years, then it popped up in the mid 2000's (at a benefit show of some sort, which I missed). Since then it's been performed a only few times. It's my guess that Gord Sinclair (who has traditionally generalled setlist duties each night) would not scribble "Fiddler's" down without first asking Mr D if he was up for it. The song is about GD's sister and her young son. It seems to me that the song is inserted only for a very specific reason which is meaningful to the band and all fans, as a tribute, maybe when a famous life is cut short in the days leading up to the show (the Hip's way of flying their "freak flag" at half mast in a display of respect). Next time I play hockey with GD, I'll ask him about it.
Maybe people will notice this song. I heard a Cover of this song on the radio by the stereophonics. But they don't sing it nearly as good as Gord Downie does. The tragically Hip is the greatest band ever, and they don't get any credit.
I can't add much more to wonderdog's comment, except to mention that a personification of Fiddler's Green appears as a character in the Sandman comics by Neil Gaiman, and, coincidentally enough, becomes a dead child's heaven at the end of one story arc.
@Blue_Man I always wondered if G.D. was familiar with that Gaiman story. Of course, both times I met him I was too star-struck to be anything other than an incoherently babbling idiot. So I missed my opportunities to ask and won't get another. (Well... perhaps in Fiddler's Green?)
The child is Downie's sister's boy. It has never been sung live. I guess because of the deep meaning to Gord. One of the lines is "ballons filled with rain" which I believe are referring to intravenous bottles.
but why does he say "theres no place that hes really been" that to me suggests that it was an unborn child
@heartbeats_xxx ooooooooooooh! Nice. That works.
Correction: this song had never been sung live until 2006.
Heartbeats is correct, this is about his nephew who was stricken down by cancer. He wrote this song for him as a tribute. I was under the impression that he would never perform it live but I could be wrong.
On their new YouTube channel they play a live version from their concert in Abbotsford, BC. Gord introduces the song saying they didn't play it much because it was too painful for some, but now it's not as painful because perhaps it helps some people.
Probably the most moving song the Hip have ever done.
Many Years ago at this point, MadScooter said:
You're right, the Hip don't get enough credit, its cuz the huge world of consumers live in America.
I just want to say as an American that grew up on the Canadian border, and one who has spent a fair amount of time in Kingston, Ottawa, Cornwall, Toronto an Ontario, Not all Americans are complete jack off's. The hip has a (Relatively speaking) huge following along the boarder towns near to Kingston and all along the St. Lawrence River. I remember as a young teenager when The Hip first came on the scene. We grew up with their music, the Quintessential bar music, bonfire party music and all around good timin music. It's the kind of music that makes every young boy want to learn how to play guitar and drums if only just to jam your heart out along with the prolific number of tracks this band has put out. And although my fascination with their music began to fade with Phantom Power, I still count them among my favorite bands and know all the words to the majority of their songs by heart from having listen to them all many hundreds of times over the years. I've seen them play at the Corel Center, at a small bar in Ottawa and at the Sugar Bush. Of all the concerts I have been to, I count each of these experiences among my most treasured. And although It makes me sad that this amazing group of performers never caught on in the greater United States, over all I'm actually happy this should be the case. The hip did not succumb to the degradations of commercialization that so many bands get tied up in. The Hip always felt natural, true to their art, passionate about their music. And in my estimation, both the band and their fans (that border on fanatical) profited greatly for it. Had the American Commercial Machine taken up The Hip, I am afraid that they would have been corrupted and made into something PoPish, fake and dismal. If "Credit" is a matter of Global recognition, then it is fair to say that The Hip has not had enough of it. But for me, Credit is the way in which they touch their fans, and the response that their music invokes from them. The love between Hip Fans and the band is altogether different then that of a more recognizable Justin Beaber type. I'll take The hip with their smaller global recognition over ANY of today’s modern PoP artists. Let The Hip keep their Integrity, and let the rest of the world have the boy bands.
Hear! Hear! :)
@Singalo Well said. I agree with you. Another advantage of the Hip's having had a limited commercial success in the U.S. was that a lot of us got to see them in more intimate venues than arenas and stadiums. Between '92 and '02 I saw them play a number of times in cities that include Tucson, AZ; Birmingham, AL; Atlanta, GA; and Dallas, TX. All of those shows (especially the first handful in Arizona) were small enough that a girl could stand pressed close to the stage, feel the music throb through her body, and be hypnotized and held in the palm of Gord Downie's hand along with the rest of the people in the club/bar/converted movie theatre. Every show was a magical experience. I didn't become a legitimate fan until I'd seen them perform live. There are not a lot of bands (especially these days) who aren't a lot better in the studio than they are on stage.
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@Singalo With all respect I agree with everything you said except for the comment about "modern PoP artists". It is up to consumers to dictate "pop music", other than that i think any artist is an artist and deserves that respect.
@Singalo With all respect I agree with everything you said except for the comment about "modern PoP artists". It is up to consumers to dictate "pop music", other than that i think any artist is an artist and deserves that respect.