Lyrics for Honour as interpreted by Mopnugget

Honour Lyrics
Passive field, January two thousand and twelve.
A nation that stands alone.
Cold voices, faces pale, gathered unto their judgment day.

Such pride remains unbroken.
Such words remain unspoken.
Just mothers to stand in vain and cry.
Tears and medals in the rain.

Shall I recall when justice did prevail?
No reason to be found why reason did fail.
The all clear resounding.
The way was clear to rebuild this land.

Shall I call on you to guide me well,
To see our hopes and dreams fulfilled?
On this day of our ascension.

Stand your ground, this is what we are fighting for.
For our spirit and laws and ways.
Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
For heaven or hell we shall not wait.

Shall I think of honour as lies
Or lament its aged slow demise?
Shall I stand as a total stranger
On this day in this stone chamber?

The all clear resounding.
The way was clear to rebuild this land.
Shall I call on you to guide me well.
To see our hopes and dreams fulfilled.
On this day of our ascension
On this day we praise the fallen.

Stand your ground, this is what we are fighting for.
For our spirit and laws and ways.
Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
For heaven or hell we shall not wait.

Shall I think of honour as lies
Or lament it's aged slow demise?
Shall I stand as a total stranger
On this day in this stone chamber?

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XorcistVAC
04-16-2002

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I love this song.

I believe it's about a country at war, and how justice doesn't tend to have any part of it, we tend to "Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"....not looking before we leap.

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RayTracer
04-18-2002

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This reminds me of the "Code and Measure" of the Solamnic Knights in DragonLance. Kinda says we have to fight, for it is our duty, it is our lives. We must not fail. Good stuff, and I really like VNV Nation

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rynlee83
04-19-2002

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I think that this song is a combination of the two opinions of those above me (XorcistVAC and RayTracer) I feel that it talks about how there is no justice, or reason involved in war, but that in a situation like that, it is our duty to fight for our beliefs and for our children so that in the future, there will be no war

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arsenic_touch
04-26-2002

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This song really makes me think about how our nation works with the world... when i say our nation i am referring to the united states. Though i am originated from britain, i am a US citizen... bloody american chaps are annoying...

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Vehementi-
06-02-2002

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To get a better understanding of the line, "Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war," refer to this URL: http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/48.html

Summary: This line is taken from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. It is spoken as part of a monologue by Caesar's friend, standing over his grave, prophesizing hurtin' onto Caesar's conspiritors. 'Havoc,' in that time, meant "a military cry to general slaughter without quarter." Caesar is to rise from the grave with Ate (the goddess of vengeance) and cry "Havoc!" and let slip the dogs of war. Yummy.

I would also like to point out this song's relevance to the recent WTC events, and contrast its point of view to that of Solitary:

'Now' we are trying to destroy the Taliban and take vengeance for our loss: "Stand your ground, this is what we are fighting for ... Let slip the dogs of war."

But we will eventually realize that this is completely futile, and we will "sever the line to the guilty past, to the ones who brought us nothing [the government and this revenge mentality] who spoke of futures brave and proud and brought only hate and war. Lined the streets with hollow praise, marked the land with paper statues [basically, the whole idea of being against the Taliban and that they're evil and we're the pillar of hope and justice in the world] Shadows fell on their futile ways, and then there was nothing more [us realizing that this 'war' is trivial and pointless, and simply dropping it.]"

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Curator
07-10-2002

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"Like all Brit's, they think they are born with a better pot to piss in." - Wall Street.

That's for you arsenic. Truth Hurts.

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NiTrIc
07-12-2002

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The way I like to interpret this song is as a motivational tool. Being an American, and witnessing the general public's passivism daily, this song has important meaning. People should stand up for themselves, their friends, family, and their beliefs so that they may continue on their chosen path. That, instead of letting everything slowly deteriorate because they've been manipulated by an external source into believing something false, or being convinced everything will be alright. Everything will not be alright if people just sit idly and observe. Stand your ground, this is what we've all been fighting for...Our spirits, our laws, our way of life. Don't wait for death to be free. Free yourselves now and let your voices be heard.

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MisterX78
07-27-2002

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To me this song describes judgement day, january 2012. The day of our ascension. I believe the war Ronan speaks of is the war between heaven and hell.

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GothicBlade
09-22-2002

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Hmm. I got the exacty same vision in my head as RayTracer.

Funny thing about the date... January 2012. Not that I'm hung up on the whole astrological thing, but according to the ancient mayan long-count calendar, the world will end and a new one emerge on December 21, 2011.... which, bizzarely enough (dont ask me how they calculated this, its wacky) is the exact date on which our planet and solar system pass through the galactic equator. Somehow they figugured out the exact period of the occilation of our solar system. Wacky stuff. Just a little useless info.

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necromancer07707
06-20-2003

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I applaud Vehementi- greatly on his post. VNV Nation has, for long, been my favorite band. I just recently finished reading Julius Caesar and this song took a WHOLE new meaning to me. Fans of VNV Nation should check out the German group Wolfsheim.

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MessiahComplex
09-29-2004

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2012 December 21st (or some say 23rd others say 27th) is when the longcount Mayan calendar runs out, there is also connections that have tied it to the i-ching and other ancient time telling techniques.

Me this line flashes me to the supercontext that The Invisibles refers to. Robert Anton Wilson predicts that more changes will occur in 2012 than the rest of humanity has experienced combined, time and evolution speeding up to a fever pitch. And in january 2012 we will be able to see the oncoming blitzkrieg of change, some will have fear, some hope others acceptance, at least it should not be boring.

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james_seth
05-12-2005

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this song refer to judgement day, the last war when the 3 beast appear from the sea, earth and sky and are judged my God and destroyed, when the rain of fire comes that destroys 2/3rds of the earth and those not condemed to hell accen. were every thing is beyond our understand so all reason fails. he also askes if he should call on god for guidance. well it can b that if u look at it religiously

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fireinthedawn
09-09-2005

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To me none of these definitons go nearly far enough. everything on the praise the fallen album has to be taken into account with the rest of the cd. That's already been mentioned though. Especially when mixing this one with solitude I get the impression that VNV isn't preaching just the battle of good and evil-but a whole third front which acts against both of them. All i've heard from his desire to forget the past seems to scream that all leaders (including god) who have come before us have misguided us...look at where he says "for heaven or hell we shall not wait." this song is all about taking salvation into your own hands, and not letting god or the devil dictate that to you. To not do this would be a slap in the face to all of those who died for freedom, because with god there is no freedom, we will have our fate's decided for us. He's saying that we are beyond god to truely fix things the way we want it to be fixed. this song is all about what happens as the end begins as prophecizded in 2012. all of this album very lightly seems to hint on a human driven resistance to both god and satan, though he never seems to come out directly and say it.

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_faye_
12-16-2005

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i've had many many ideas come to me thinking of this song. it *is* actually my favorite song ever by VNV. i have one vision with it - without getting all into detail - my apocolyptic side of me likes to think of it being about the 3rd world war and the period it is all 'supposed' to start taking place is in this century - close to the time of 2012 which as said above, is thought to be the 'end' of the Mayan calendar, as well as a significant year noted in other ancient cultures. i think this period of time will be taken advantage of to completely throw religion against religion, man against man, man against earth - man against himself, all in the name of greed and to determine which country, leader, or group of people will dominate in the end.

OK! now for my less 'end of the world' theory - it reminds me of right now and how i feel about the US/Iraq war - based on lies, greed, deception - in the name of freedom, completely insulting our troops' courage to be in the miliatary and denegrating their honour. they have been sent on a mission that is completely unnecessary and dying for no reason. (that of course is not what this is about, it was written wayyyy before the Iraq war, just another one of my relations to it)

ok, and the 3rd is simple: I HATE WAR.

ok, done now.

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waldemar
02-26-2006

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Herr Waldemar,a Worshipper of Ancient Aryan Gods,an officer of PROTIVOSTOJANIE Sturmbattalion heiling from Ukraine...This is one of my fave songs,thus I can add:such a Skaldhymn can be gladly sung even by mightest of National Socialist Black Metal hordes like GRAVELAND,NOKTURNAL MORTUM or so...I hope everyone got clear the meaning-concept of Landvaettir,defence of Our Aryan Expance.Let our Horde will be last standing upon the European Battleground in the moment when all foes shall be food for the ravens...

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QuinnStorm
04-06-2006

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I have to agree with fireinthedawn, it's about a third side, as just about all of VNV's music about spirituality is. The side that embraces the reality of Free Will. The side that realizes that three things are sacred; Truth, Love, and Self.

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Nailandteeth
06-11-2006

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Screw the lyrics, I just want to see waldemar's face when he realises VNV Nation aren't about white power.

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SolsticeTheory
07-28-2006

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Actually, Nailandteeth, I can sort of interpret Dark Angel as Adolf Hitler's struggle for power, too, but it's definitely not a band about white power - just whenever you hear a song about aggressive militaristic tactics with no pity or sympathy for anyone you automatically either think Nazi Germany or Bush America.

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waldemar
08-10-2006

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Ha ha,you maybe fuckin imagine my face WITH NO EMOTIONS NOW...damn me,DO YOU REALLY THINK I CONSIDER VNV NATION AS STRAIGHT PROPAGANDA OF NS?!VNV NATION IS A METAPHOR OF EXPRESSION,and everyone can find here something close to his views-f.ex.,WP ideas,as for me...I'm just very sorry than so many people like you are so fuckin infested by democrazy virus and so fear of totalitarian ideals of racial autocratic power.Hey,damn me,what a"song about aggressive militaristic tactics", Nailandteeth?!AGGRESSION will be later-now it's time to defend the land.Or you forgot Paris autumn 2005?
...so damned politically incorrect manifesto,eh eh...:)

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waldemar
08-11-2006

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Also you may read some more comments on"Chrome"song page.

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SolsticeTheory
08-14-2006

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...Never mind, I think Waldemar is insane.

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Nailandteeth
08-19-2006

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DRAMA!

Haha, but seriously, you've converted me waldemar. White power and all that.

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schonenberg
08-26-2006

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Waldemar is a pussy.

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waldemar
09-08-2006

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Re- schonenberg:
FUCK OFF AND DIE.
Re-SolsticeTheory:
Usual opinion about all NS ones.I'm not surprised.Just bored...Too USUAL.Really,I did think such a music is for rebels,not brainwashed,but now...How philistinian!I laugh...

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waldemar
09-11-2006

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AHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!:)))))))) WHAT A FEAR OF WP that my messages disappeared...I laugh and mock...:-D:-D:-D

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