This is a hauntingly beautiful song about introspection, specifically about looking back at a relationship that started bad and ended so poorly, that the narrator wants to go back to the very beginning and tell himself to not even travel down that road. I believe that the relationship started poorly because of the lines:
"Take me back to the night we met:When the night was full of terrors: And your eyes were filled with tears: When you had not touched me yet"
So, the first night was not a great start, but the narrator pursued the relationship and eventually both overcame the rough start to fall in love with each other:
"I had all and then most of you"
Like many relationships that turn sour, it was not a quick decline, but a gradual one where the narrator and their partner fall out of love and gradually grow apart
"Some and now none of you"
Losing someone who was once everything in your world, who you could confide in, tell your secrets to, share all the most intimate parts of your life, to being strangers with that person is probably one of the most painful experiences a person can go through. So Painful, the narrator wants to go back in time and tell himself to not even pursue the relationship.
This was the perfect song for "13 Reasons Why"
If this is redemption, why do I bother at all
There's nothing to mention, and nothing has changed
Still I'd rather be working at something, than praying for the rain
So I wander on, till someone else is saved
I moved to the coast, under a mountain
Swam in the ocean, slept on my own
At dawn I would watch the sun cut ribbons through the bay
I'd remember all the things my mother wrote
That we don't eat until your father's at the table
We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust
Never once has any man I've met been able to love
So if I were you, I'd have a little trust
Two thousand years, I've been in that water
Two thousand years, sunk like a stone
Desperately reaching for nets
That the fishermen have thrown
Trying to find, a little bit of hope
Me I was holding, all of my secrets soft and hid
Pages were folded, then there was nothing at all
So if in the future I might need myself a savior
I'll remember what was written on that wall
That we don't eat until your father's at the table
We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust
Never once has any man I've met been able to love
So if I were you, I'd have a little trust
Am I an honest man and true
Have I been good to you at all
Oh I'm so tired of playing these games
We'd just be running down
The same old lines, the same old stories of
Breathless trains and, worn down glories
Houses burning, worlds that turn on their own
So we don't eat until your father's at the table
We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust
Never once has any man I've met been able to love
So if I were you my friend, I'd learn to have just a little bit of trust
There's nothing to mention, and nothing has changed
Still I'd rather be working at something, than praying for the rain
So I wander on, till someone else is saved
I moved to the coast, under a mountain
Swam in the ocean, slept on my own
At dawn I would watch the sun cut ribbons through the bay
I'd remember all the things my mother wrote
That we don't eat until your father's at the table
We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust
Never once has any man I've met been able to love
So if I were you, I'd have a little trust
Two thousand years, I've been in that water
Two thousand years, sunk like a stone
Desperately reaching for nets
That the fishermen have thrown
Trying to find, a little bit of hope
Me I was holding, all of my secrets soft and hid
Pages were folded, then there was nothing at all
So if in the future I might need myself a savior
I'll remember what was written on that wall
That we don't eat until your father's at the table
We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust
Never once has any man I've met been able to love
So if I were you, I'd have a little trust
Am I an honest man and true
Have I been good to you at all
Oh I'm so tired of playing these games
We'd just be running down
The same old lines, the same old stories of
Breathless trains and, worn down glories
Houses burning, worlds that turn on their own
So we don't eat until your father's at the table
We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust
Never once has any man I've met been able to love
So if I were you my friend, I'd learn to have just a little bit of trust
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We Don't Eat Lyrics as written by James Mcmorrow
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“If this is redemption, why do I bother at all? There's nothing to mention, and nothing has changed Still I'd rather be working at something, than praying for the rain So I wander on, until someone else is saved”
The next verse is about him breaking away, he’s left, seemingly on a journey of self discovery. And in his pensive mood he reflects on what his mother wrote to him.
“moved to the coast, under a mountain Swam in the ocean, slept on my own At dawn I would watch the sun cut ribbons through the bay I'd remember all the things my mother wrote”
The chorus is what she writes. It paints a picture of his traditional family. They say grace, as in Father (God) is at the table, they don’t consume alchohol. Im a bit unsure about the “never once has any man I’ve met been able to love” Perhaps shes says that dispite the things that they suppose to do she has never met a man who able to do them all the time (giving his grace telling him no ones perfect). The “love” i think is what she calls him. Like “no one can, love”. The way he sings it matches with that meaning of “love”.
“That we don't eat until your father's at the table We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust Never once has any man I've met been able to love So if I were you, I'd have a little trust”
The two thousand years verse seems to clarify the reference to Christianity (or a something like Mormons or Jehovah’s witnesses) and his struggle with belief and his hope and desperation in trying to believe as he listens to people trying to convince him (fishermen is a biblical reference to “fishers of men” spreading the word of God).
"Two thousand years, I've been in that water Two thousand years, sunk like a stone Desperately reaching for nets That the fishermen have thrown Trying to find, a little bit of hope"
The next verse is a confession of secrets he held (possibly sin) which he has softened the truth off to himself and hid from others. He then turns a page on this belief and the sin was no longer a sin. He goes on to say that he knows if he does ever need a saving grace he can always go back to the belief and his family, and the thing that reminds him of this is what his mother wrote... The thing that was written on that wall is the chorus
"Me, I was holding all of my secrets soft and hid Pages were folded, then there was nothing at all So if in the future I might need myself a savior I'll remember what was written on that wall"
(notice the “That” at the start of the chorus which links it with the previous verse)
"That we don't eat until your father's at the table We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust Never once has any man I've met been able to love So if I were you, I'd have a little trust"
The last verse seems to me as if it’s a brother/friend who he has discussed his struggles with. The brother/friend is saying that he is tired of going around in circles with the things they argue about, covering various topics such as human progress, war, science etc.
"Am I an honest man and true? Have I been good to you at all? Oh I'm so tired of playing these games We'd just be running down The same old lines, the same old stories of Breathless trains and, worn down glories Houses burning, worlds that turn on their own"
And the brother/friend finishes with the last chorus being the same sentiment as the mother. I guess seeking reconciliation and asking him to come back. (notice the use of the word “so” to link it again with the previous verse and the use of “friend” which is why I think this is from someone other than his mother or himself)
"So we don't eat until your father's at the table We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust Never once has any man I've met been able to love So if I were you my friend, I'd learn to have just a little bit of trust"
It’s a beautiful song and the enigmatic lyrics that find a place to sit in each person’s heart individually. I’d love to hear what others think about my interpretation and if you can add anything. Enjoy the song!
Turnmeon said what you said in 20 words or less :)
^ awholelottaungrateful
LOL. For once give Turnmeon some credit. Let's face it, it's not in character for her to do it in just a few words. She's the woman on this one! Woot Woot. (It's 'bout time she takes one from the brain himself)
I agree pretty much with all you said, but i think the lines where the mother says shes never met a man who can love and that he should have a bit more trust is in regards to her christian belief that all humans will let you down in the end-and so trust in the Lord (or the "father" as you mentioned) <br /> I also believed that the bridge where he is chatting with a "friend" Is when he is questioning his previous beliefs. He is wondering, aren't i a good man? And he considers how the world has become despite all the "good" of mankind. I think HE is the speaker in the last chorus, speaking to a friend, saying that he now believes the things his family believed as well. <br /> I also believe that the verse regarding the fisherman shows that he tried to believe and find savior and hope in religion, but he couldn't because (in the net verse) of his sin and disbelief. <br /> <br /> SHOOT this song is so deep, i wonder how anyone can listen to regular music and not find it childish ahahaha. <br /> Listen to Doubting Thomas, it has a similar message as this one!
I like your interpretation of the song, but I have to make one correction. You said, "The two thousand years verse seems to clarify the reference to Christianity (or a something like Mormons or Jehovah’s witnesses)..." but Mormons ARE Christian:) I think Jehovah's Witnesses are too, but I am not sure on that one.
We liked your analysis of the verses. However, wised that you could summarize it better. Just a little to lengthy. But, nicely critiqued. <br /> Thanks for your input. Symone1176 Channel ~
I'm surprised no one else has commented on this song yet. I think it's just awesome. To me, it's about someone whose been searching for faith in God throughout their life and then goes on to talk about humanity searching for the last 2000 years for God. I think the statements about "We don't eat until your father's at the table, We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust" is about doing things with faith/trust even though we don't entirely understand it. Anyone else have ideas about this song?
^Agreed :) Think everyone can relate to this, theist or not. Everyone has a different experience of life, and I don't think many if any, ever end up fully comprehending it or ever finding an answer as to why? But deep down, I think we all perhaps do things in the faith and hope that theres a bigger reason for us doing them. Still, thats what makes life, life I guess; the variety and the unknown.
i think its also about growing up and no longer just believing what your parents told you, but discover how and what to believe yourself. And, in doing so, i think the song describes how often you tend to go back to 'what was written on that wall', e.g.; your heart. Without playing games or rake up the same old lines and stories, and not believing them truly for yourself. But cause you see the truth behind it.<br /> <br /> PS. Could the 'devil turn to dust' bit, mean 'prayer'? I tend to think so.
SHE HAS BEEN IN A PSYCH WARD BEFORE DID SHE TELL YOU THAT? YOU THINK ME OR ALO ARE CRAZY? SHES A WHOLE NOTHER CRAZY BUT YOU KNOW HER SO YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT. I FUCKING HATE YOU AND HOPE TEH WROSE FOR YOU
AHE GOT IN ONE OF HER PSYCHOTIC EPISODES AND WAS DIRVING 90 MILES DOWN THE FREEWAY. YANKING THE WHEEL BACK AND FORTH LIKE SHE WAS GOING TO RUN TINO ANOTHER CAR OR LANE WITH MY DAUGHTER IN THE CAR. OUR FATHER BEGGED HER TO STOP AND SHE SAI/ ARE YOU GUYS SCARED YET? ILL KILL US ALL. BECAUSE SHE WAS AGGREVATED. SHE IS CLINICALLY INSANE
SHE IS OBSESSED WITH HER PHYSICAL APPEARANCE AND THATS THE ONLY THING SHE THINKS IS IMPORTANT. SHE SAID TO MY 10 YEAR OLD NIECE THAT YOUR JEAOULS BECAUSE IM PRETTIER AND SKINNER THAN YOU. SHE IS A NUTJOB AND I WOULDNT TRUST HER ALONE WITH MY CHILD
AND IF YOUR READING THIS RIGHT NOW. I WHIPPED YOUR ASS AND SHOULD OF WHIPPED YORU ASS EVERYTIME OYU PUNCHED ME, BIT ME, SMACKED ME OR GOT PHSYCIAL WITH ME. bUT I WAS ALWAYS THE BETTER PERSON BECAUSE I FELT SORRY FOR YOU. JUST LIKE YORU WHOLE FAMILY DOES. EVERYONE KNWS AND THINKS YORU CRAZY AND HAS ALWAYS FELT OSRRY FOR YOU. bUT I KNOW YORU JUST EVIL. STAY OUT OF MY LIFE AND OYU WIL NEVER SEE YORU NIECE AGAIN
I think it has to deal with his father struggling with alcohol and how his mother held everything together. Maybe this is a loose tie. For me, it's about he realizes his mother had known all along. He hits that same point "running down the same old lines" with "houses burning" kind of referring to how alcohol can tear houses apart. Hmm.
i agree in full 17gentner..<br /> he is taking a journey
This song is fantastically beautiful. Someone earlier mentioned that they didn't understand the line:
"Never once has any man I've met been able to love, so if I were you I'd have a little trust".
This is a very eloquent way of saying that humans will always let us down. We are not perfect, and we are not capable of loving the way God does. So, it's important to trust the Lord who loves us unconditionally and will never let us down.
I hear a man or woman who was brought up to believe/live one way and has hope to break free from all that he learned about himself from his family. He is asking others to trust that he can make the break...i.e. change what appears as a predestination of sorts. Seriously, though, I have no clue as this song doesn't seem easy to comprehend.
I think that this song is from the perspective of somebody that had a Christian upbringing, but fell away as he got older. As he began to become less naive to the suffering and troubles of the world, he started to question the plausibility of religion. Yet despite this, he is drawn back.
"If this is redemption, why do I bother at all There's nothing to mention, and nothing has changed Still I'd rather be working at something, than praying for the rain So I wander on, till someone else is saved"
He feels as though worship is empty, without meaning. He has nothing to 'mention' to God in prayer and sees no result from his attempts at it. He'd rather try to make his way in life by his own effort (wander on), and won't trust in God unless he sees some grand miracle or effect in some other religious person (someone else is saved).
"I moved to the coast, under a mountain Swam in the ocean, slept on my own At dawn I would watch the sun cut ribbons through the bay I'd remember all the things my mother wrote"
He isolates himself by going out to nature in order to clear his head and think, without all of modern life's distractions. The religious upbringing from his mother starts to come back to him as he is struck by the beauty of nature. Hans urs Van Balthasar comes to mind here (a theologian). He wrote about how man can come to God through Beauty first, and then to the True and the Good hopefully (these are the three transcendentals of being).
"That we don't eat until your father's at the table We don't drink until the devil's turned to dust Never once has any man I've met been able to love So if I were you, I'd have a little trust"
The chorus has beautiful imagery. Eating is one of the most basic ways people sustain themselves. But even this is not possible without our God ("father at the table"). In traditional monotheism, God is the first cause in an essentially ordered series - that is, the entire universe is sustained by him here and now. Drinking, particularly alcohol, is a symbol of celebration, of joy and pleasure. Until one has "turned the devil to dust" - has overcome their temptations and sins, and placed their life with God - they cannot be joyful. Finally, no human is capable of pure love, as love is of the divine. A love that seeks only the good of other cannot be achieved by humans, whose intentions are always mixed with some self-interest. Yet, we see in our lives moments of love, however broken, that point us towards a pure love. Despite all of the ills of the world that make religion so difficult to come to, he is finding there is no other satisfying explanation for the strands beauty and love in the world. So he has trust, despite the things that don't make sense - in a way, he throws up his hands, unable to understand God's inscrutable will, but unable to abandon God.
"Two thousand years, I've been in that water Two thousand years, sunk like a stone Desperately reaching for nets That the fishermen have thrown Trying to find, a little bit of hope"
Strong biblical allusions here. In the Gospel (Matt 14:25-33), Jesus walks on the water and calls to Peter and the disciples who are on a boat. Peter initially is able to walk on water towards Jesus, until he sees the wind and becomes afraid, starting to sink before Jesus catches him. The narrator feels as though in his own spiritual life he sank into the water, but was not rescued, falling to the very bottom.
"Am I an honest man and true Have I been good to you at all Oh I'm so tired of playing these games We'd just be running down The same old lines, the same old stories of Breathless trains and, worn down glories Houses burning, worlds that turn on their own"
He wonders here why he has not been 'pulled up from the water' by Christ, so to say, questioning why he is is unhappy or why the circumstances of his life have come about. Has he been a bad person? Has he offended God somehow? He can't reconcile his troubles, and others' suffering as well, with a God who is supposed to be all-powerful and loving.
The final chorus repeats the main message: We don't really have another option but to trust in God despite our inability to understand. To expand from the song a bit; we are led to God in many ways: metaphysical arguments, beauty and love in the world, existential considerations. When something devastating happens (a school shooting, a loved one dying of cancer, prolonged depression) these can seem like little support. We question God, and finding his response absent or inadequate, may leave behind religion as merely wishful thinking, something we can no longer believe now that our eyes have been opened to tragedy. Yet, the best we can do as humans is to continue to trust in God, for He is the very ground of our being.
Absolutely gorgeous.
i think its about loosing faith or loosing your religion. the impermanence of all things and leaving something behind to begin anew. its bittersweet.
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I think this song is about the presence of God in all things, and that when we are willing to take the time to look we realize His presence. I think this song also discusses the doubt that we all face in our spiritual lives, but God is always there to embrace us and to bring us back to him!
I love this song....beautiful and deeply moving. I read on another site that James Vincent McMorrow had this to say about telling the meaning of his songs:
“My favorite songs are all ones whose meanings I don’t completely understand, and depending on the day, I can interpret them in completely different ways. I hope that doesn’t sound too obscure, but I really think it’s way more important what feeling the song evokes in you without knowing my intention behind it. If I was to specifically say what each and every song was about, then I think it would change how people hear them.”
I actually took the song meaning to be about a relationship. I was raised in a strict Irish Catholic house, and the first verse, if this is redemption why do I bother, rings very true.
The main chorus though, I think of the things my mother used to say, made me cry when I first heard it. Like there was another person out there why was raised the same way I was. I took the meaning to be very literal. This is what my mother used to say. I would come home from school at 3 and be hungry by 5, but “We don’t eat until your father is at the table.” Was her line. After I was born she left her job to raise the family and make sure my dad had a hot meal every night. He works hard every day and we eat together those are the rules. If he got home at 6 we ate at 6:30. If he got home at 8, we ate at 8:30. Back then it was more of an annoyance to me, but now that I’m 35, when I go home to visit. This is still the rule, we eat together there’s nothing to mention nothing has changed, but I appreciate it more. In fact I think it’s almost romantic, I pray I find a love like that.
I hear a young man saying that he’s moved around the world, he’s lived on the beach, in the hills, he’s lived on his own. And now he gets it. He understands what his family values were. We may have alcoholism in the family, so don’t drink until you can cheers with your friends and only have one. When he doesn’t understand things his mother tells him, “to have a little faith/trust”
The 2,000 years part is like it’s 2019 and we’ve been in that water and every time we have not been able to walk on it as Jesus did so where is faith. So every time we try to have faith we sink and our friends/ fishermen give us hope and confidence and save us.
He’s looking for a relationship like his parents had and he hears his mom’s advice again, “never once has any man I’ve met been able to love like your father, you will find someone like that too, just have a little trust.”
Then in the final verse he’s talking to his partner. Asking her, “am I an honest man? Have I been good to you?” It seems like maybe they were fighting and he’s run down. He’s tired of playing games, the same old lines, the same story/fight on repeat. She’s worn him down. He wants a traditional love like his Irish catholic parents had, where we don’t eat until your fathers at the table. And he’s thinking of ending the relationship since it doesn’t seem like it will ever be like that/he’s burning down the house. His words of love are turning on their own. He’s confused and he thinks of the advice from his mother, ‘Just have a little bit of trust’ (in god) it will be okay.