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The Hazards of Love 3 (Revenge!) Lyrics
Charlotte:
Father I'm not feeling well, the flowers me you fed Tasted spoiled for suddenly I find that I am dead But father don't you fear, your children all are here Singing oh, the hazards of love Dawn: Papa turn the water down, the basin's overflown The water covers everything and me left all alone But papa here in death, I have regained my breath To sing oh, the hazards of love To sing oh, the hazards of love Isaiah: Spare the rod, you'll spoil the child, but I prefer the lash My sisters drowned and poisoned all and me reduced to ash And buried in an urn, but father I return Singing oh, the hazards of love Singing oh, the hazards of love The hazards of love The hazards of love
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03-10-2009
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03-14-2009
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03-17-2009
03-17-2009
I like the less literal interpretation some of you have. It makes a lot of sense that the children represent the Rake's conscience and not actual ghost/zombie kids. The one thing that makes me stick to a literal interpretation, however, is the creepy carnival music. It seems to take the song beyond happening on the mind of the Rake and suggests something far more evil.
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03-20-2009
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03-21-2009
03-21-2009
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03-22-2009
what jfoxx said:
"I felt like this was the Rake's greeting into death. That William had killed him, and the first thing he sees upon dying is all his murdered children, which will be with him for eternity in death. A fitting sentence."
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His conscience finally catches up with him, and his murdered children's voices drive him insane (and possibly making him commit suicide), thus making it easy for Margaret to escape and be reunited with William/William to rescue Margaret.
'but father I return'
I take 'return' to mean the rake is still in the land of the living when the voice is haunting him.
'But papa here in death'
This could mean that he's joined his children in death, but I think it's just them talking from death, and he is still alive.
So yes, I think that he is still alive in this song, although probably not for much longer. Who knows, he might simply run away in his insanity.
03-22-2009
rather than *HIS* demonic children
my bad, just 'demonic children' makes it sound like I meant just any old demons, rather than his own dead children specifically.
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03-24-2009
Check out my comment in "The Queen's Rebuke/The Crossing" where I dabble in the idea that William is the Rake's killed son Isaiah.
05-06-2009
Also, I think the energetic beginning of this song, with Williams theme, is the fight between William and The Rake. The children begin singing as they greet him in the afterlife.
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03-30-2009
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03-30-2009
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04-01-2009
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04-08-2009
The wanting comes in waves/reprise then is Williams passionate reuniting with Margaret.
And William is not Isaiah, Isaiah was burned, William was found in the reeds of a river. Also it makes sense that this is the Rake's first act in his new life, so it's fairly recently after killing his children.
05-06-2009
06-18-2009
Also, seeing as how he was a baby when he was found, maybe "a cradle of clay" is actually a cradle made out of clay... just a thought
06-18-2009
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04-09-2009
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04-26-2009
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05-03-2009
Originally thought it was the Rake's children suddenly appear and haunt him just as he's about to rape Margaret (they were his 'hazards of love' as he just wanted lots of sex, no babies), and he subsequently goes insane and kills himself, or at least is incapacitated so that William is able to break in and rescue her. But now... actually, the idea that William fights him and kills him, then he gets to spend all eternity as a ghost in the company of his vengeful children... ooh. I think that would be a worse fate. Creepy, creepy use of a children's choir, all very discordant and sinister, and are those squeaking taps on Dawn's verse? *shiver*
05-06-2009
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05-04-2009
Any ideas on what is meant by this? Dawn and Charlotte seem to express a sort of sarcastic naivete (Papa, we died on accident, but don't worry, we're back!) whereas Isaiah is clearly aware he and his sisters were murdered (also evident in the Rake's Song). As such, I think this line might be different than the preceding openers by Dawn and Charlotte. I am thinking it could be some sort of threat to his father that in death his father is going to get it. I guess it could also be a reference to his father beating him, but that's no fun.
05-26-2009
As for "I prefer the lash" I take that as a comment on the way that his father killed him - the proverb says "Spare the rob & spoil the child", but the rake whipped Isaiah, which is a much harsher thing.
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05-06-2009
Remember the Queen is magic and has special powers, I don't think reviving William/bringing him back to life is outside the realm of possibility.
05-06-2009
And frankly, I don't get the impression that this story took place yesterday or even within the past few centuries. In the time this story was set, there were fewer accessible building materials. I would guess that any type of cradle could be made of clay, as it would probably take longer to carve a cradle out of wood. Also, if you were going to abandon your sickly child in a river, you probably wouldn't put him in a wooden cradle, which would be reused for all your children. You'd put him in something makeshift, like a cradle made of clay.
The Isaiah = William theory is tenuous at best.
05-07-2009
Also, I think clay was at least partially used because 'and he was a baby entombed in a woven basket of reeds, and I was the soul who took pity and stole him away' just doesn't rhyme. She also says baby, and Isaiah was, at the very least, a young boy when his father murdered him. He was the oldest and not only was he of an age to understand what happened to his sisters, he could fight back. He wasn't exactly a threat, but babies don't fight.
And while Colin loves making sick connections like that, he also gives you all the information by the end at least, and he probably would have sung as Isaiah if that's who William was from the start. But, Isiah is last for a reason, and the whole song starts with William coming upon the Rake with Margaret, and killing him. Then he's stuck in death and with the children that he murdered forever and ever. It's got Colin written all over it as much as William being Isaiah would. But, please. If Isaiah being William is what makes the album for you, don't let me get in the way of that.
05-11-2009
Chapstick, I don't think the story is recent, either, but I don't know why it would be more difficult to make a cradle out of some sticks tied together instead of clay. Clay is not an incredibly common thing to have around, while sticks are... but then again I know nothing about the historical use of cradles. :P I think like daedalus said under me that the Queen's magic powers would allow here to bring back a baby if it was dead, and the "entombed" part again makes me think that, regardless of whether or not William = Isaiah, William was closed in something, most likely an urn. Dried clay is very brittle unless fired, so I don't think anything made of clay would survive being thrown into a river unless it was some thick, fired pottery. So, if they are separate, Isaiah was burned as was William, making it two burned children. But like you said, we don't know for sure, just fun ideas. ;)
As for SecretConviction, first paragraph makes a great point. As for the second one, we're talking about Colin Meloy, a practical walking dictionary, so I'm sure he could have made something rhyme that would get his point across. ;) Also, I'm currently 20, but my mom still calls me her baby on occasion. Same could be true of the Queen. Although William would probably remember his former life (assuming he is Isaiah, unless the Queen magically altered his memory?) which shoots holes in my theory. :P Speculating is fun, regardless. ;)
Perhaps I've been watching too much Lost....
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05-07-2009
thanks, someone, for mentioning that the rake was the villain who kidnaps margaret...for some reason it didn't occur to me, and now it ties the two stories together so nicely! how brilliant is this album anyway...
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06-24-2009
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08-28-2009
Is it up to the person who feels "wronged" to punish and torment and haunt? Or would the person who did "wrong" have paid for their "crime" on their own terms? I went through an experience where I did wrong and paid dearly on my own. Then the people who felt "wronged" decided it was up to them to teach me a lesson.
Yes, the rotten deeds you do in life will come back to haunt you. You will pay for them (I would never think it was up to me to make someone pay or teach them a lesson, I simply think naturally their conscience will catch up with them). Like William murdering his babies, some people victimize the hearts of people who love them. They rape their souls and laugh. I would never seek revenge.
My blood is on your hands and I forgive you.
09-12-2009
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12-02-2009
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01-05-2010
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