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Someone Great Lyrics
I wish that we could talk about it,
But there, that's the problem. With someone new I couldn't start it, Too late, for beginnings. The little things that made me nervous, Are gone, in a moment. I miss the way we used to argue, Locked, in your basement. I wake up and the phone is ringing, Surprised, as it's early. And that should be the perfect warning, That something's, a problem. To tell the truth I saw it coming, The way, you were breathing. But nothing can prepare you for it, The voice, on the other, end. The worst is all the lovely weather, I'm stunned, it's not raining. The coffee isn't even bitter, Because, what's the difference? There's all the work that needs to be done, It's late, for revision. There's all the time and all the planning, And songs, to be finished. And it keeps coming, And it keeps coming, And it keeps coming, Till the day it stops (Repeat x3) And it keeps coming, (Repeat x7) Till the day it stops. I wish that we could talk about it, But there, that's the problem. With someone new I could have started, Too late, for beginnings. You're smaller than my wife imagined, Surprised, you were human. There shouldn't be this ring of silence, But what, are the options? When someone great is gone. (Repeat x8) We're safe, for the moment. Saved, For the moment.
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03-18-2007
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03-19-2007
I always thought it was about someone dying.
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03-19-2007
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03-21-2007
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03-21-2007
Considering the possible death aspect of the song I attributed the lovely weather part as irony--because he's saying worst of all is the lovely weather, it's kind of ironic if someone died and it's such a beautiful day outside because most people connote gloomy weather with the lugubrious issue of death. Then he continue by saying the coffee doesn't even taste bitter to him because he's so numb from hearing the news from this early morning phone call which, based on it being early, was a sign of negativity.
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03-29-2007
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03-29-2007
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04-07-2007
"To tell the truth I saw it coming,
The way, you were breathing.
But nothing can prepare you for it,
The voice, on the other, end."
theres no way anyone would anticipate someones death. but you can deffinitely anticipate a break-up.
08-17-2009
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04-07-2007
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04-18-2007
It seems in this case, there was an unresolved argument that kept them apart & now that the loved one has died he is regretting never resolving it with that person, but now it's too late to start over with him/her. It's late for "revision".
The person was ill for a little while, ("To tell the truth I saw it coming, The way, you were breathing.") and that sort of was a warning, but you still can never be ready to lose a loved one. It's always a shock. Also, that kind of news often comes at odd times, like early in the morning when you don't normally get a phone call.
It's weird to him that weather is nice & that coffee tastes good because when something tragic happens you almost expect everything else to reflect it. Like, how can the world go on like nothing happened when this amazing person has just died? The weather should be grieving also.
The line about his wife being surprised at how small this person is & that he/she is human is describing how he thought so much of this person & probably talked so highly of him/her (hence the title of the song & line "when someone great is gone.") that people who had never met this person before would expect them to be almost more than human.
I think it is a really sad & sweet song at the same time. It really hits on some feelings you have when someone you love dies.
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05-01-2007
But who is "someone great"?
I kind of beleive the mistress interpretation, "you're smaller than my wife imagined / surprise you were human"
But the death aspect makes a lot of sense too, the part with the phone call:
"I wake up and the phone is ringing,
Surprised, as it's early.
And that should be the perfect warning,
That something's, a problem.
To tell the truth I saw it coming,
The way, you were breathing.
But nothing can prepare you for it,
The voice, on the other, end."
That could be someone calling James Murphy, telling him his friend died, he should've expected it becuase his friend was sick (the way he was breathing). Then the weather part is about how perverse it is to have nice weather at a funeral.
Also, in the CD liner notes he dedicates the CD to Dr. George Kamen, 1942 - 2006.
So yeah, I change my mind. He is talking about this guy who died. Sweet song.
11-20-2008
When Kamen dies, Murphy wants to talk to his group therapist about it. Ironically the therapist died.
"With someone new I couldn't start it, [now it's] too late, for beginnings."
Murphy doesn't want to hire a new therapist or couselor or psychiatrist.
"The little things that made me nervous[. They] are gone in a moment[, Doc]."
Before Kamen's death, Murphy would discuss personal insecurities, professional stressors, and domestic issues with Kamen, his therapist. The size of his belly, the stress of signing a new band, or the friction of a romantic relationship seems petty compared to the tragedy of someone great being prematurely stolen from Murphy.
"I miss the way [that] we[, the patients,] used to argue, [while we were] locked, in your basement[, Doc].
Perhaps group therapy involved his wife, friends, or others like in Fight Club. Perhaps arguements would occur over people's concerns. For example if Murphy's girlfriend was also a patient, Murphy might be missing the constructive arguing/intensive fellowship between Murphy and his loved one guided by wise Kamen. Similarly Murphy could be missing the support group debate that lifted everyone involved up not the kind of destructive arguing that assinates characters and inflicts so much damage. Perhaps Murphy argued with Kamen in a lively way that he is nostalgic for. There are many ways to interpret these two lines within the context of our speculative narrative. I'm assuming basement is the basement of Kamen's practice. "Your basement" doesn't fit this narrative very well though. Perhaps the song is not about Kamen. It's a stretch to imagine such an important therapist having a basement practice. Let us continue though.
"I wake up and the phone is ringing, surprise, as it's early. And that should be the perfect warning that something's a problem. To tell the truth I saw it coming - the way you were breathing - but nothing can prepare you for it, the voice, on the other end."
Someone calls Murphy in the morning or really late at night to tell him that Kamen has passed away. Murphy can hear the bad news in the hesitation of the messanger's voice and the way they were breathing. I don't like this interpretation because it changes the subject. Before this part of the story, "you" equaled Kamen. The song is addressed to his beloved Doc. Now, it's as if Murphy is telling the story of Kamen's death to a group of people when he addresses "you", the specific person in the group listening to the story who called Murphy to deliver the bad news. I prefer the interpretation that Murphy is still addressing Kamen. If "you" equals Kamen, then Kamen must be the one who told Murphy that he was soon to die or in very bad shape or perhaps just told him of a malignant cancer. Kamen would have known far in advance of this death that the end was near. Still Murphy wouldn't have been ready. This second interpretation also is insufficient because Murphy said earlier in the song that he wants to talk to Kamen about Kamen's passing. So now there would be a rewind in the chronology of the story which could be seems jarring, unnatural and thus unlikely. The Kamen interpretation is getting stretchier.
"The worst is all the lovely weather. I'm stunned, it's not raining. The coffee isn't even bitter because, what the difference? There's all the work that needs to be done. It's late for revision. There's all the time and all the planning and songs to be finished." This is Murphy lamenting and explaining the injustice of weather, the injustice of time, and the tyranny of tedium. When someone great is gone, the weather should weep. When someone great is gone, time should stand still in solace to the sorrowful or time ought to bow in respect to the great. When someone great is gone, we shouldn't be slaves to revising revisions, pushing paperwork, or fussing over Pro-Tools. The disrespect is perverse. The injustice is awesome. He's numb.
"And it keeps coming till the day it stops."
The time to explain the injustice is over. Now that we understand what he's getting at, he lets out a cathartic primal shout. Dizzying, maddening modern life is poisoning him. Kamen is dead and "it" keeps coming. "It" is the tedium, the chaos of a random world, the indifference of nature. Kamen died and Murphy is fighting 9-5. The humanity lost! Kamen died and there is not god to that Murphy mentions to comfort him. No "it's God's plan for your life." There is not spiritual explanation. The humanity! Natural phenomena don't cherish your life or feel your pitiful mourning. The humanity! The absence of explanation! Things just continue without pause. It must be disgusting.
"I wish that we could talk about it, but there, [Doc,] that's the problem [now that you're gone.] With someone new I could have started. [No, I guess, it's] too late for beginnings." These lyrics are not the same as earlier. Note the difference: "couldn't start it" replaced by "could have started." There's an expression of ambivalence in his changed lyric. He is confused by his competing emotions. His loyalty to Kamen and/or fear of someone new and/or pessimism about someone new and/or laziness to rebuild such a long relationship is competing with his desire to heal his hurt and/or do what Kamen would want him to do and/or his hope for a psychologically brighter day.
"You're smaller than my wife imagined. [She was] surprised [that] you were human." Again addressed to Kamen, Murphy wants to joke around with his friend. After the mythic stature Murphy created of Kamen in ths mind of Murphy's wife, she was surprised to learn that he had his faults and/or physical weaknesses.
"There shouldn't be this ring of silence, but what are the options, [Doc]?" Murphy is wrestling with the first group therapy session since Kamen's passing in which "what are the options" is a rhetorical question. I find that this interpretation lacking. Why shouldn't there be this ring of silence? Someone great is gone. It's psychologically healthy and normal for people to be at a loss for words after a tragedy even for a couple months afterwards. What are the options for the ending of the ring of silence? I don't think the ring of silence is a problem, but if it were, the options could seem perplexing perhaps irrationally perplpexing due to depression. Perhaps one os the options was group therapy and there's a ring of silence at group therapy. Still the therapist would prod conversation. It wouldn't seem like an outrage. This is a problem with the Kamen interpretation.
"When someone great is gone!" Desperate sorrow is an obsessive loop that appears unbreakable much like Murphy's maddening cry. Who should Murphy address? Is Kamen listening? Is anyone listening? Folks, someone great is gone!
"We're safe for the moment, saved for the moment." Wait what? Murphy has been mostly addressing Kamen the entire time except during his two burst of madness ("...keeps coming!" and "...is gone!"). The Kamen interpretation demands the subject to be Kamen which means "we" equals "Kamen" and I. How are Murphy and Kamen safe for the moment? Saved for the moment? Kamen is dead. Murphy is mad, vulnerable, confused. Perhaps Murphy is contemplating suicide, but safe/saved for the moment. Is that his solace? That Murphy isn't going to kill himself. Still it doesn't address Kamen. How is Kamen safe or saved? Kamen has nothing to be safe from or saved from. Perhaps Murphy's "we" is he and those who loved Kamen. This would mean that Murphy awkwardly changed the subject at the very end of the song. It's possible but improbable. It's very stretchy.
The writer's interpretation is one that Murphy endorses or seems the least stretchy from what we know. Though the Kamen interpretation has a lot going for it, it needs to have 100% going for it to be the writer's interpretation. The "locked in your basement" part, the phone call part, the "ring of silence" part, and the "we're safe" part all stretch the Kamen interpretation to seem unlikely.
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05-14-2007
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05-27-2007
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05-27-2007
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06-04-2007
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06-08-2007
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07-03-2007
"I wish that we could talk about it, But there, that's the problem. With someone new I couldn't start it, Too late, for beginnings."
- Their relationship has communication issues. He doesn't want to leave her, it's "too late for beginnings" and wants to just work it out with her.
He knows they have had their differences, so he has seen it coming when she does call him early in the morning to break up with him. I think he is expressing how ok he is with the ending when he makes the comments about the weather and the coffee "because what's the difference". He knows they have been on life support for quite some time and isn't shocked or too upset, it's an amicable breakup. Now he has to get on with his life "There's all the work that needs to be done". This is the love of his life but sometimes love isn't enough.
He just had this huge earthquake in his private life but life "keeps coming til the day it stops" and he must carry on. He later meets another girl and gets married and has told his wife of his previous love and talked her up quite a bit and that is why the wife sees her as someone more than human. Simple a myth to her.
The "ring of silence" is the awkwardness when he introduces his wife to the love of his life. What do you say in that situation?
07-05-2009
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07-16-2007
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07-24-2007
This for me also fit with the line about "To tell the truth I saw it coming," because with my experience we knew he had a problem and he went to rehab several times but he never seemed to completely kick the habit and I always had an awful feeling it would kill him.
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07-24-2007
This for me also fit with the line about "To tell the truth I saw it coming," because with my experience we knew he had a problem and he went to rehab several times but he never seemed to completely kick the habit and I always had an awful feeling it would kill him.
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07-25-2007
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08-16-2007
what, his mother died and he couldn't find a new one?or a friend?or, umm, a newborn?
01-07-2009
08-17-2009
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08-16-2007
"i miss the way we used to argue locked in the basement" - this particular line makes me think of the way i used to be forced to sort out an issue with my siblings, we argue until were tired of arguing and mom lets us out of the basement. this was fairly common practice in my area.
"you're smaller than my wife imagined, surprised you were human" - this could be any one of the aforementioned scenarios, some talked up person in his life, or perhaps a newborn.
if you want to stretch it, he could also be talking about a loved pet.
i think the brilliance of this song is its level of ambiguity because it creates such a discourse around it because, lets face it, we all want inside james murphy's head. i think the title "someone great" was chosen carefully because he is describing many situations in his life that seem to overlap and there is a consistency of love and loss... comprende?
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09-03-2007
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10-26-2007
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