Fall Out Boy have changed drastically..since 'Evening out with your girlfriend'...to 'Infinity on High'. They have changed, but I don't think they have gotten better or worse.. tttyg is way different than fuct in a lot of ways...but I like both equally. I live in Australia, and they aren't as big here. Most people only know "Dance, Dance" (which is so frustrating) but they are a great band and even though I'm not crazy about Patrick's obsession with Kanye West..they were always going to try to revolutionize their music, thats what musicians do. I still love them, but if Pete starts rapping in the background I won't be happy..

This is a great pop song, and will bring Fall out boy out to a broader public.
I think this song is funny because it's plays with the emo bandwagon and predicts the coming race for signing emo bands. And mixes elements from other genres into the emo concept. It just shows how talented these guys are.
And I hate the bla bla from people who wants to be underground so hard they actually take time out for their lives to write how much they hate this band. Come on grow up.

Not going to lie this song kicks ass. Its insanely catchy. I'll probably get sick of it in like two weeks but for now its awesome, and the lyrics are great and if you don't understand them thats ok because the sing kicks ass... like I said.

personally yes i think this song is not for people who really listen to fall out boy. in the song and the music video to me they are making fun of the pop scene. saying how riduculose it is. this song is kind of a goof off song to the album. if u listen to carpal tunle of love its sounds like they normal fall out boy

i agree with B12, this song does sound like Lullaby.

First of all what difference does it make if they changed their music a little? If I listen to the same song/album over and over again, I can't stand it for a while.

Second of all, I just have to say that I think this fighting is ridiculous. I'm not a "scene kid" or a "mtv kid". Actually, I'm not a kid at all. I'm almost twenty two. I get so frustrated at the obsession with labels. If I like a song, I don't care whether it's "punk", "pop", "pop punk", "punk rock", or any of the other many labels. Labels are important only for description purposes, not as a basis for whether or not something is good. And since when does an artist of any kind have to stay strictly within one label?

Oh, and pianogirl, I don't get FUSE. I'd love it, but I can't afford to add anything to my basic cable that I don't really watch as it is.

I'm glad Fall Out Boy became popular and was/is on MTV. I'd have never become a fan. Generally, a band has to be pretty popular already to be heard of in Arkansas. They are the reason I became interested in music again and the reason I go to a show every now and then... basically the only part of my life that deviates from strictly school and work.

As for the meaning of the song (the point of this website), I think the few people who have actually tried to analyze the song got it. This is about a music war over the "scene". I really don't think they care too much who wins because they are just doing what the love.

So, in summary, Fall Out Boy has changed a little over the years, but change is good. Labels used this way are stupid (not gay, which refers to either homosexuality or happiness) and nonproductive to an debate on whether or not something is good quality.

The sound is sort of different(not the "typical" Fall Out Boy song) but i really like it I'm glad it's a single. the lyrics really speak to me, although i could be interpreting them wrong

Part I: Beginning to “…p-p-p-parties”
It seems to me that the song is about calling out/ridiculing some of the so-called punk artists who distort the music scene by producing thoughtless, pointless “nonsense” music, and how said nonsense music is what the record companies push on the radio. The listeners then associate the scene/music genre with the nonsense music over the radio, which in turn causes the radio to play more of it. A lot of the “real” punk bands, seeing that they aren’t getting the proper airtime they deserve, must decide to either sink or swim by reforming to make their music listener-friendly/sellable or maintain their lyrical standards.
The beginning starts: “I am an arms dealer / fitting you with weapons in the form of words / and (don’t really care which side wins) / as long as the room keeps singing / that’s just the business I’m in.” The introduction of the song seemingly paints a portrait of a sell-out band, but it also could be referring to large record labels that don’t allow their bands much freedom/creative license. The record company “arms” their band with “weapons in the form of words,” hinting that the record company hires writers to compose the band’s song [not referring to Fall Out Boy, I know P. Wentz writes the lyrics, but hypothetically speaking] instead of letting said band write their own lyrics.
“And (don’t really care which side wins)” further illustrates the dubious nature of the record company. A large label with many bands may not care about the bands themselves since they have so many other back-up options to choose from, that “as long as the room keeps singing, that’s just the business I’m in.” This line screams, ‘The bands’ integrity/creative license be damned, as long as the crowd is pleased and the cash keeps rolling in.’
“I wrote the gospel on giving up” could refer to a band giving into the whims of the large record label. “Looking pretty sinking” because their fan base collapses after they give up their values, even though the studio polishes up their music and pushes their CDs. “But the real bombshells have already sunk (primadonnas of the gutter)” is reinforcing the looking pretty aspect of the previous line. It’s saying that a band without creative license is basically worthless, already sunk so far that the core fan base has no more respect for them than the trash in the gutter. No matter how much the record label reinvents a sell-out band’s image, they will still go down the drain like all of the rest.
“At night we’re painting your trash gold, while you sleep” may be a reference to the tweaking done to a song in the studios. Everyone’s been to a concert where the band, quite frankly, sucks ass, but the CD they put out is banging hot (ahem hem Ludacris) and you look at your peers like, “What the hell is this?” Music that would make your ears bleed if you heard it on the street is polished, revamped, and pre-packaged for the masses over the radio, and now you can’t get enough of it. I know there are some songs that I totally hate, but through constant exposure over and over again through radio, television, parties etc. there’s nothing you can do but learn to like it.
Which brings us to the next line, “crashing not like hips or cars but more like p-p-p-parties.” The intolerable nonsense music is then insinuated into every form of media available (for example a large portion of Green Day’s Am Idiot songs were overplayed way too much) for mass consumption. I interpret “crashing not like hips or cars” as the nonsense music isn’t racy/cutting edge (“cars”), and personal/intimate (“hips”) with their fan base, just music locked, loaded, and shot out at the masses not to be enjoyed for its musical validity but for its effervescence. Even the redundancy of “p-p-p-parties” tells of the stuttering stupidity of the nonsense music, how it’s pushed upon the ignorant and ill-bred.

Part II: “Bandwagon’s full…” to the end

“Bandwagon’s full, please catch another” is, I believe, the strongest line in the entire song. It openly ridicules the sell-out bands and their nonsense music, how the scene is infested with perpetrators. It speaks of the core fan base fed up with all the posers that literally jump on the bandwagon after a new band has a hit song. “Please catch another” talks about the whimsy of the posers, how they are quick to jump ship when the “next big thing” arrives, leaving the scene gutted and trivialized in their wake.

“All the boys who the dance floor didn't love, and all the girls whose lips couldn't move fast enough, sing, until your lungs give out.” This could be a representation on how large record labels bring in new talent, forcibly change their image to match the passing music phenomena, then throw their (metaphorically) withered bones to the dogs after the public has chewed up their music and spit them out. Also, with the singer urging “all the boys…and all the girls…” to “sing, until your lungs give out” creates in further irony, probably mocking the so-called fans that only like their music because it’s the flavor of the month, not because they enjoy the sound itself.

The people they call out in the song seem to be socially awkward to the scene in some way, with the boys who “the dance floor didn’t love” and the girls “whose lips couldn’t move fast enough.” This is probably Fall Out Boy’s way of pointing out/ridiculing the posers and fakes in the scene. And even more ironic is that most of the people that they are ridiculing in this part of the song are the ones that will probably sing the loudest with the chorus .

I believe that Fall Out Boy intended the song to be pop-y, to reinforce the irony of the lyrics themselves, not unlike the lyrics from Nickelback’s “Rockstar.” At first I was confused by the song b/c it’s really pop-y, but the beat is just so damn catchy that I find myself humming it in some form or another every day. Many of Fall Out Boy’s songs are so catchy that we tend to overlook the lyrics, which is quite a clever way of not only getting your message out there but appeasing the record companies and the posers as well. By releasing this song, Fall Out Boy can reach directly to their core fan base, or at least those who interpret their songs with more meaning than bubblegum pop. Perhaps this is a subversive attempt to get more posers out there singing the song, but when they check out the lyrics, they too may come to understand the deeper and sometimes sinister underlying theme of the song.

Music Video Commentary:

A quick commentary on the music video: through out the song there are snapshots of the band getting into trouble all across brightly colored magazine covers, which look very close to the Teen Beat & whatever girly magazines that pre-teens read. The video could be poking fun at all the posers who think they are down with the scene, but only because their Teen Beat magazine told them that that music was cool for that particular week.

By the way: is that badass head vampire dude in the video (also from “A little less sixteen candles…”) the lead from the Academy Is? It’s just been bugging me, the guy is so skinny…and I love their derbies, very Clockwork Orange.

this song has to be the worst fall out boy song ever made. and i thought that the thriller remake was awful. listen to this crap.
i'm a huge fan of FOB but mos def NOT this song.

lmao, at first i thought "arms race" meant like... cutting wrists. seeing whoever can cut all the way down their wrist first wins. yeah, like an.. arm.. race... geti t? since that's what a lot of stupid so called "scene" kids do these days. lol :D but yeah idk. this song is stuck in my head. i hate fall out boy.

whatever :]

Well if anyone's wondering an "arms race" is basically a competition between two or more parties for military supremacy. Each party competes to produce larger numbers of weapons, greater armies, or superior military technology in a technological escalation. Haha!!!!!! I am so clever lol lol lol lol, god I hate myself sometimes, but yeah the songs saying 'stop listening to the media, they are dicks and liars and want to make you feel shit and stufffff, listen to fob, because they are obviously the height of cool. UNLIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hoorah for Soon2bfamous6!

i was getting seriously depressed reading the first two pages,
all the crap people were saying

but Soon2bfamous6 said exactly wat i wanted to say
(and said it much better than i could have)


just love the songs you love,
and just let other people love the songs they love

coz does it really matter when i got into FOB?
or where it was that i heard FOB?
or even who i am?

no, is the answer your looking for

The song is basically a parody. Everyone is calling them posers and fakes, and just in it for the money and scene. So they wrote a song about it.
I dont see why anyone is getting upset saying they're sell outs, because this song is proof that they arent sell outs.
I love the line: "Bandwagon's full, please catch another" Totally snubs the scenesters :)
If you really believe that Fall Out Boy are sell outs you obviously arent paying attention.
I was kind of disappointed lyrically by Carpel Tunnel, but this totally makes up for it. These kids make me smile.

the first time i listened to this i thought about justin timberlake or however you spell his name
the second time i listened to it it reminded me of like the scene stuff and punk n i thot it was pretty good
then the third time i listened to it it remended me of like war and stuff cuz its like "I am an arms dealer fitting you with weapons in the form of words" as the first time
then i listened to it again after i read this and i dont know but i know its pretty good

this song reminds me of 'lord of the war' its a brilliant film with Nicholas Cage as a guy who supplies weapons to both sides of the war. Really opens your eyes to whats actually going on the world.

I just say the music video is funny as hell.. i love the way Patrick makes faces when he is singing....and the part where Pete is dressed up gothic-lious ooooh-wheeeee with make-up ....also the part where he is showin his awesome body..AY DIOS MIO!!!!! :)

""" Because really, FOB was the first of the 'scene' to make it mainstream that I know of. And now all these other bands are making music exactly like theirs. Yeah, I'm done with my rant. Sorry for length. ""


Exactly why I hate Panic! At the Disco.

FOB copycats.

This is a really great song. I love the fact that they can poke fun at themselves(and A7X if my eyes dont lie) i cant wait for then new cd

dxmachina:I absolutely love your rant...It is very informative, and interesting, and I agree with you on what the song is about, and it is absolutely hilarious how many people that dont listen to music that they are playing...There are so many songs that love, and no idea what it is about, and god forbid if a band such as FOB or Nickelback writes a song that not only pokes fun at themselves, but what half the people that are listening dont realize, they are also making fun of us as fans...They are right about most of their fans, we are bandwagoners...

I personally discover new music fairly quickly, and I bought FOB's album "From Under The Cork Tree" the day it came out...Long before anyone heard the very radi friendly song "Sugar, We're Going Down" made them big time...My personally opinion "Grand Theft Autumn" is their best song...Though this one is now up there, because so many people dont realize that this song is making fun of them...

now i don't want to call fall out boy sellouts, but i couldn't help but notice some not very intricate product placement in their new video for this

I really like this song actually. I think it's a lot better than the rest of the FOB I've heard.

And who else liked how they used the whole Wentz Internet pics in the video? I thought that was great, it showed that the band's just like, "Yeah, whatever" about that whole thing and now they can just laugh at it.

hey guitar punk, i don't mean to sound like and ass and i'm not trying to be one, but i must say i disagree with you. fallout boy got signed to a big record label in the first place because the record label felt like they could both help the bands career and make a lot of money off their sound. although some labels want bands to have a specific sound, they don't go and force a band to change their sound. they signed the band in the first place because they knew the music would sell. but also, big record labels are not all bad. sure a lot of the reason they sign artists is to benefit themself, but in return it benefits the artist in so many ways. a band that signs to a big label essentially triples their publicity, they can sell out bigger venues, get their cds in more stores, and so forth. it's such a huge oppotunity for a band to sign to a major label. and another thing to consider is the band also wants to change their sound to fit what they view as where music is heading. and often they will consult their record label. i'm sorry if that came across harsh, but i really can't stand it when people shit on major record labels with a not so logical reason. and also, music isn't just about the fans. they chose to make a career out of this. so obviously it is really important to them to make the most money they can. it's selfish in a ways to say the band is doing it just for the money. the music industry is changing so fast that they need to evolve constantly. like it would be a bummer for them to make music JUST for the fans, and put their opportunity with a label on line. but seriously, they need to make money. it's their job, and more props to them for it. that being said, i don't particularly enjoy fallout boy :-P

cheers

hey guitar punk, i don't mean to sound like and ass and i'm not trying to be one, but i must say i disagree with you. fallout boy got signed to a big record label in the first place because the record label felt like they could both help the bands career and make a lot of money off their sound. although some labels want bands to have a specific sound, they don't go and force a band to change their sound. they signed the band in the first place because they knew the music would sell. but also, big record labels are not all bad. sure a lot of the reason they sign artists is to benefit themself, but in return it benefits the artist in so many ways. a band that signs to a big label essentially triples their publicity, they can sell out bigger venues, get their cds in more stores, and so forth. it's such a huge oppotunity for a band to sign to a major label. and another thing to consider is the band also wants to change their sound to fit what they view as where music is heading. and often they will consult their record label. i'm sorry if that came across harsh, but i really can't stand it when people shit on major record labels with a not so logical reason. and also, music isn't just about the fans. they chose to make a career out of this. so obviously it is really important to them to make the most money they can. it's selfish in a ways to say the band is doing it just for the money. the music industry is changing so fast that they need to evolve constantly. like it would be a bummer for them to make music JUST for the fans, and put their opportunity with a label on line. but seriously, they need to make money. it's their job, and more props to them for it. that being said, i don't particularly enjoy fallout boy :-P

cheers