OK , i just finished reading the rest of the posts, which i probably should have done before i made mine, but here's what i have to say:

Anti-social, those are the lyrics being discussed in the toolshed forum right now, MJK hasn't posted the lyrics yet.

I like the idea that the subject in the song is like a rosetta stone to convey messages to humanity.

The line "you believe me don't you, please beleive what I just said" is because he believes what he saw, wether he did see it or not.(probably not, considering all the drug eveidence)

I don't understand how his heart could be racing while his vitals are stable - maybe he's only hearing the voices of nurse/doctor on his trip?

The subject probably is a cop since he's eating donuts outside area 51 at his post at 2:00

The one other thing i think the song could be about is maybe human nature - how we believe things that aren't real, forget our pen when we need it, spill donuts all over ouselves, drop out of highschool and become deadheads, and shit the bed (screw up) all the time - how typical.

posted on toolband last week...

1) The first (question) has to do with the Ouija session in which 'Obelisong' replies to you with an anagram...

Q) "Can you tell me something about the 'terrible' secret that one of the songs on the new record speaks of?"

A) "A OR ET TESTS ON D" (Rosetta Stoned)

That's all fine and dandy, as long as you have no problem believing that 'other-world' beings care to code their answers so cleverly... but...

Q) "With regards to this same song, what does the letter "D" that you pointed to stand for?"

A) "DAVE" (and Dave drives a van.)

This doesn't appear to coincide with a certain recent news entry in which you explained that the 'protagonist' in this particular song is none other than MAYNARD JAMES KEENAN.

2) The second issue is that you had stated in a past news entry that there would be NO guests on this album... but, if you read the credits for "Lipan Conjuring" you'll find Bill McConnell's name, not to mention the doctor and nurse in Lost Keys.

3) In the February newsletter you make a few references to Danny's ****, which I believe you later revealed represented his gong.. but what I don't understand is that in the same newsletter you write...

"After we fired a couple up, I asked if he'd managed to get a gong on the new one? "Yeah, on *****" he said with a mischievous smile."

So, why was 'GONG' so important to omit 3 times when you end up making direct reference anyway?

Hopefully you understand the confusion. Could you clear this up for us a bit?

A: If you read the post again you'll see that I never said that MJK was the so-called "protagonist." I said that he would be the one who knew the identity of the individual in question (as HE wrote the lyrics). For all I know, it isn't an actual person at all, or perhaps it's a composite of several people. Most likely, though, the lyrics and concept were inspired by a story told by Maynard's friend Bill Manspeaker (see the March, 2006 newsletter). Although the strange experience described by Bill happened to some people he knew who were camping at Giant Rock in Landers, California (and not at Area 51, as the lyrics state), this might just be a case of Maynard using a better know setting – that of America’s most famous secret base. I know from email that a lot of people think that I was the "protagonist" sitting out at Area 51 that night, but this is very doubtful for many reasons. First of all, as I've said, I have never eaten a Krispy Kreme doughnut. But more importantly, I've never taken LSD or DMT or any psychedelic drugs while out at Area 51. In my way of seeing things, it's just not the place for such things (for many reasons, some that should be quite obvious by now). However, in thinking about any possible inspiration on Maynard’s part, I did find one thing that MIGHT be of some relevance. In the May, 2005 newsletter, in talking about a recent trip to Area 51, I wrote the following with regards to Ray Santilli's controversial 'Magdalena' footage (more commonly known as the "Alien Autopsy): "With its combination of strange alien symbols, classical Greek, [proto] Phoenician and modern English, did anyone ever consider that what 'crashed' was a Rosetta Stone of sorts?

All things considered, we might never know the true identity of 'Dave', but with all those Krispy Kreme doughnuts we sure as hell can't rule out Eric Cartman, even though he hates hippies. Incidentally, last Saturday I made my 51st trip to Area 51 (mainly just to cure the deficiency of Venus.) Unfortunately there was no activity to report on the moonless night other than the usual thing of being carefully watched by security personnel at the perimeter. Well, at least I don’t remember anything unusual happening.

posted on toolband last week...

1) The first (question) has to do with the Ouija session in which 'Obelisong' replies to you with an anagram...

Q) "Can you tell me something about the 'terrible' secret that one of the songs on the new record speaks of?"

A) "A OR ET TESTS ON D" (Rosetta Stoned)

That's all fine and dandy, as long as you have no problem believing that 'other-world' beings care to code their answers so cleverly... but...

Q) "With regards to this same song, what does the letter "D" that you pointed to stand for?"

A) "DAVE" (and Dave drives a van.)

This doesn't appear to coincide with a certain recent news entry in which you explained that the 'protagonist' in this particular song is none other than MAYNARD JAMES KEENAN.

2) The second issue is that you had stated in a past news entry that there would be NO guests on this album... but, if you read the credits for "Lipan Conjuring" you'll find Bill McConnell's name, not to mention the doctor and nurse in Lost Keys.

3) In the February newsletter you make a few references to Danny's ****, which I believe you later revealed represented his gong.. but what I don't understand is that in the same newsletter you write...

"After we fired a couple up, I asked if he'd managed to get a gong on the new one? "Yeah, on *****" he said with a mischievous smile."

So, why was 'GONG' so important to omit 3 times when you end up making direct reference anyway?

Hopefully you understand the confusion. Could you clear this up for us a bit?

A: If you read the post again you'll see that I never said that MJK was the so-called "protagonist." I said that he would be the one who knew the identity of the individual in question (as HE wrote the lyrics). For all I know, it isn't an actual person at all, or perhaps it's a composite of several people. Most likely, though, the lyrics and concept were inspired by a story told by Maynard's friend Bill Manspeaker (see the March, 2006 newsletter). Although the strange experience described by Bill happened to some people he knew who were camping at Giant Rock in Landers, California (and not at Area 51, as the lyrics state), this might just be a case of Maynard using a better know setting – that of America’s most famous secret base. I know from email that a lot of people think that I was the "protagonist" sitting out at Area 51 that night, but this is very doubtful for many reasons. First of all, as I've said, I have never eaten a Krispy Kreme doughnut. But more importantly, I've never taken LSD or DMT or any psychedelic drugs while out at Area 51. In my way of seeing things, it's just not the place for such things (for many reasons, some that should be quite obvious by now). However, in thinking about any possible inspiration on Maynard’s part, I did find one thing that MIGHT be of some relevance. In the May, 2005 newsletter, in talking about a recent trip to Area 51, I wrote the following with regards to Ray Santilli's controversial 'Magdalena' footage (more commonly known as the "Alien Autopsy): "With its combination of strange alien symbols, classical Greek, [proto] Phoenician and modern English, did anyone ever consider that what 'crashed' was a Rosetta Stone of sorts?

All things considered, we might never know the true identity of 'Dave', but with all those Krispy Kreme doughnuts we sure as hell can't rule out Eric Cartman, even though he hates hippies. Incidentally, last Saturday I made my 51st trip to Area 51 (mainly just to cure the deficiency of Venus.) Unfortunately there was no activity to report on the moonless night other than the usual thing of being carefully watched by security personnel at the perimeter. Well, at least I don’t remember anything unusual happening.

Er, dunno if this has been posted yet (hell, maybe I posted it even), but one interesting concept that someone's told me is that it's about a patient who really was abducted by aliens, but he couldn't understand what they were saying until he was stoned, thus Rosetta Stoned.

Guys, cant be DMT, you smoke DMT and in the song he says "blotter" which is a piece of paper used when takin acid or lsd.

And better, more accurate lyrics are herehttp://www.metrolyrics.com/lyrics/2147430442/Tool/Rosetta_Stoned

As far as the meaning, i have no clue

here's a point that i havent seen touched on yet. The fellow described in this song seems to shit the bed a lot, maybe this could indicate he's "full of shit". if indeed the person was a police officer or with the military, it could be a jab at them.

This song is a cleverly written double meaning of LSD and an alien encounter. LSD was originally created to be a 'truth serum' given to a patient during a psychiatrist meeting. However, it didn't work. In Lost Keys, the doctor gives the patient LSD to help him remember all of what happened, but it doesn't work, so blame Hofmann for creating a 'truth serum' that doesn't work. The patient remembers what happened before his abduction, but not all of the encounter. The LSD didn't help him remember it either. So, in the song, like FierceDiety2 said, the patient was the Rosetta Stone for understanding how to save the world, but then he's put on LSD, so the Rosetta Stone is now Rosetta Stoned.

NONE OF US HAS DONE ENOUGH DRUGS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND REVEREND MAYNARD JAMES KEENAN.

Along with amazing lyrics comes one of the most complex, phenominal Tool songs yet. Have you heard the fuckin poly-rhythms on zie stoned rants? I mean this shit doesnt let up ever. I'd say it's even more complex than the Grudge or Third eye...but I suppose thats up for debate. Danny Carey strikes again you bitches!

Which parts of the song have the polyrythms and what are they counted out of?

Alrighty then...Let me see if I can explain this to you all...As some of you have already noticed the lyrics here are grossly innacurate, and as close as the ones are that "aBove" posted I can easily distinguish some obvious discrepencies, but its close enough. You're all partly right in what this song is about but you need to try and combine all your theories. This song is talking about people with messianic complexes. It's from the perspective of a naive relligious nut that for some reason has had their very FIRST hallucenagetic drug experience and/or has had an ET encounter, I'm not exactly sure. And their own interpretation of what they saw is skewed by what they wanted to see and hear and they want to be a hero and share this with the world. Most of the lyrics DO actually make logical sense. (Not these ones, they're not accurate) But they offer a lot of good imagery into what this person is like. They make the point that this person is clearly a bafoon who never even graduated high school. Also this story rings true for all the people written about in the bible who claim to have been visited by angels and they go on to recite these seemingly endless speeches of what the angel told them, meanwhile its F-ing impossible to accurately remember that much, or resist the urge to embelish. Especially since I believe that angel sitings are actually encounters with extra-terrestrials. Who happen to look like us, since they began life on earth and watch over us like some kind of experiment. He also makes reference to L-Ron Hubbard. Who as you all know is the moron who started scientology. This might lead me to think this entire song could be about him if he actually claims to have had some kind of 'encounter' that lead him to want to start his retarded relligion, but I don't know the details behind that. So there's my shpeal on the whole bit.

I'd also like to say in regards to those people who don't like the new Tool stuff...Ahem....F@#$! you. You don't like it because you're not evolving at the same rate that the music is. These guys aren't required to make songs a certain way in order to maintain the same fan-base. They are expressing themselves. And everything they create is pure art and they've put more thought into it than you could even imagine. These guys are geniuses and that's why I like them. I also have a theory as to the name of this song and the reason why people seem to be having such a hard time dechyphering it. It's because there are parts that have three different sets of lyrics that have similar sound qualities but they're all overlapped. Not sure though, just a possibility. So that covers what 'toolmusik' said about the rosetta stone with the three different scripts used for dechypering hyroglyphics.

Many of the songs of this album are religiously themed. And they respectfully make very GOOD points about religion and its discrepencies and failings. And they do it with style and class.

I tried singing this song. I can get it pretty damn close, heh heh. And with that, goodnight.

I must admit, this wasn't my favorite song off the album. Infact, I didn't like it at all until I listened to the whole album from start to finish. It is a rather interesting combination of musical lyrics and story telling. I agree with the people who saw it as a continuation of Lost Keys. I see a connection with the whole Hoffman thing. He says "Dead Head chemistry" perhaps referring to the synthesis of LSD? Just a thought.

dis song is kinda funny...
I THINK its abt a guy...high on LSD....who hallucinated dis whole E.T. encounter n dat da aliens chose him as 'da one'. he thinks its real...but no1 wud belive him.
dunno really...cuz wid a tool song...u really cant tell...but dats just wut i think. mite sound silly tho.
plus maynards voice is totally magical....specially in da last part of da song...blows me away evrytime i lissen 2 it.

You know, part of the melody of 'Lipan Conjuring' is in the middle of this song...

Maybe it's like the Rosetta Stone in that there are three distinct parts to it, two that are relatively obvious (Greek and Latin/Lost Keys and Rosetta) and one that has to be figured out (Egyptian/Conjuring).

That said, this song is hilarious.

By the way, this is my first comment, so I'd like to take this time to say hello to you all.

hopefully it will be your last comment T-Bo because you obviously have absolutely no intellectual insight to offer. Read my previous posts for a good interpretation of this song and do not bother with anything else. The rest of these zombies have nothing important to say.

egb-shut the fuck up already! do really think that you are the only one who knows what this song is about?! fuck no!!! you are too closed minded to know fully understand what this song means. you think its all about drugs when its not. holy fucking shit your are a stupid ass clown!

you have contributed nothing but the anylisis of a 10 year old girl.

i bet egb stands for enormously great bitch.

anything posted by 'egb' in the last week has NOT been 'me'...

some cock has nothing better to do than smear my name on one of the few websites where it means nothing to me...

i won't be posting under this name any more... so take that as you will...

Atrieu has been posting under my name for the last week or so...only if you look closely you'll notice that it's eQb and not eGb...

send all you hate email to Atrieu please...

for what it's worth... i haven't posted here in weeks prior to today...

oh shit, egb, you are right. ok then, all my previous comments are now directed at eQb.

Well, thank you, eQb. You've been so kind. I mean, damn. I offered up a whole new perspective on this song, BUT NO!! It's okay. [sarcasm]Your version is better... [/sarcasm]

Here is an idea. What if the initial encounter was the real deal, and the subsequent ones were DMT/LSD induced, trying to relive the experience and find the message he had forgotten?

The jig is up!! it is I, however, that assumed the moniker eQb, not atreiu. I suppose I should be insulted that you would confuse my jest with that simpletons moronic antics... but given the circumstances of the egb/atreiu feud it is understandable. Anyway I suppose it was terribly jeuvenile of me, but it was just a bit of fun. Anyone who is offended takes life (and especially forums about song lyrics) waaaay too seriously and you need to lighten up! but I apologize if anyone recieved irreparable psychological harm ;-)

Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position. Such a heavy burden now to be, the one.
Born to bear and write you all the details of our ending. To write it down for all the world to see.

most powerful tool lyrics to date. the power in MJK's voice is awe inspiring.

Wow, I was gone for awhile, but i'm back...and everybody is still bitch smacking each other with their keyboards...
...didn't miss much.

As far as i'm concerned, Tool's top three absolute "epics", and i dont mean songs like Lateralus, The Grudge or Eulogy, i mean real epics are as followed:
1. 10,000 Days
2. Third Eye
3. Rosetta Stoned

but not necesaraly in that order, i would almost say that they are also their top three songs, but then there is the diversity and quality throughout all tool's songs, so i couldnt disregard others. i have a list below of the songs that I PERSONALLY think could quite possibly be their most outstanding, bold, creative and brilliant songs to date. keep in mine this is MY list and obviously alot of people will disagree with it, so don't snap! There are, of course, 10's of others that i could have or should have put in, but i couldn't be fucked writing another list. (if anyone's seen the new tool list on digitaldreamdoor.com, you would have to agree with me that it sucks, based on the fact that it has "Ticks and leeches" as "TICK and leeches", and "the grudge" as "GRUDGES" lol, but also, it looks extremely rushed, and is missing key songs.

1. 10,000 Days
2. Third Eye
3. Rosetta Stoned
4. Lateralus
5. Eulogy
6. Ænema
7. Reflection
8. Schism
9. Sober
10. Stinkfist
11. Vicarious
12. The Grudge
13. Pushit
14. The Pot
15. Parabola

bit of a random post, but hey...