Morgenstern (English)

Okay, I'm going to have to disagree on a couple points made ...

First, I do not think the song is a love song at all. From my understanding this story is centered around one character, yes there third person parts of the song could be narrarating her thoughts and feelings and not actually be someone's opinion on her.

Anyways, onto my interpretation. a girl who lacks the physical apperance of beauty as beheld by the norms of society. She may feel she has the beauty within, the sparkling intelligence but no one can see past her "grostique" appearance. It's a song about a cry for help. A cry to be gifted and accepted by people. A cry to be valued and love for who she is inside.

The morning star is her shred of hope. She only goes out at night, for fear that daylight reveal her ugliness to the world (there is not indication that she truly is ugly, or she's merely self-conscious about her image) She hopes that in the morning light, a mircle will arise, and her face will change into something more accepted; something beautiful. But as the chorus closes with "Ugly, you are ugly You, you are ugly" It's almost a decline of hope, because nothing has changed. Like wasted faith in an unpromising religion, but still she prays and hopes that if there is someone out there, that they will have mercy on her.

So the third person view, in my opinion is her bashing herself on her looks and her esteem. I can relate well to the contradictory thoughts and extreme slef critisim.

The point is: I really like this song, and love the band!

So, I’ll go more over the subject. As Drkrts says, Morgenstern is Lucifer and as Soliloguy says, Morgenstern is Venus planet an Venus myth too. Then, as Doberwolf says, This is not a love song at all as “Amerika” teaches. But I’ll add another notion starting with anther thing that this song is not. This song is not about a girl who is ugly and depressed of being ugly.

Artists like Lindemann (or the artists who are behind him) don’t write about so simple subjects. Or better, it just seems they are writing on a simple subject as the importance of nowadays beauty for women in society. But this is the first appeal the songs gives to be economically accepted from the most part of the masses. This first appeal is just a metaphor. Behind Rammstein songs there is instead more and more. They are sometimes like prophets or great poetry men of the past. Do you really think Rammstein, with their powerful guitars and Flake’s ancestral keyboards chords can talk about the problems of a young teenager with his beauty? Of course not! Or better it may be true only for people who just take out from the song the primal economical appeal.

So what is the song about in my opinion? What is in reality this ugly girl? This Girl is Gea! This ugly woman is the earth and the mankind at the same time. So now the frame is fill up. Don’t worry, I don’t go away without giving you proofs of the availability of my thesis:

She's so ugly that it gets dark when she looks into the sky

Its too much exaggerated to use the metaphor of the sun who is frightened for the sight of a girl. How can a girl be so ugly to make the sun going away and becoming night? This is too much for a ugly woman! If this girl is view as the humankind it can be true because normally the sun is God in all religions. So God can be frightened of the bad daily life humans conducts. So it goes away and the night comes.

Then the light is frightened It shines into her face from below

Supposing it is an ugly girl, how can the sun light this ugly girl face from below? Under the feet of this girl there must be the earth. If the sun goes down and it gets dark, its true, the sun is supposed to be under her feet but her face can’t be lighted because there is the earth planet between this girl and the sun. So on which face the frightened sun is shining on? Obvious! It’s shining on the other face of the earth where the sun was not shining before and where now is night and the supposed girl is standing and walking alone in the dark. In reality the song is till here talking about the earth evolution around the sun. But in this mare song, the sun is turning around the earth instead of the contrary.

She sees a star shining in the twilight and pleads Paint beauty onto my cheeks

Here there is no doubts. Earth/mankind are praying Lucifer on a side because we are on the way of the sin if we watch our days from a catholic point of view. We are praying Lucifer to reach the material beauty. The Venus Morning Star makes so much light just before the rising of the day. So this Vanus is Lucufer (The Light Bringer). The most shining light in the sky after the light of the sun (God). If mankind is praying to Venus/Lucifer for beauty on earth, it just means that they are praying for their destruction (the same destruction of Der Meister song). In fact, most conspiracy nowadays theorists think that terrorist attempts dates are calculated on Venus planetary transactions to get more astral power. Mayas did the same thing to chose the right day to make a war and to be sure they will gain. Destruction of mankind is view in the song as a purification of the earth from all bed things of humanity like the pollution or the wars. So the earth is the woman who is ugly because of mankind and pray to Venus to become beautiful destroying mankind.

Ugly, you are ugly You, you are ugly

Here mankind are saying ugly to the earth. Because Earth is not ugly because of mankind but even because natural laws are bad, that’s why then people are for the progress.

But the progress makes ugly the nature so then the earth pray like this:

Morningstar, oh shine onto the visage of mine Cast a warm light onto my frightening face

Here is the earth which is talking to Venus. To be free from progress and mankind.

Morningstar, oh shine onto the beloved of mine Cast a warm light onto her frightening face Tell her she's not alone

Let’s come now to the most strong proof that this girl is our earth: As you can see in this second refrain of the song. The subject change. Now it’s not the earth who is praying for herself but it’s someone else who is praying for her. Who is the narrator who is singing now? Who is the narrator everybody is asking about? Someone thinks this is the lover of the girl. This would change Morgenstern war song in a love song. But think about this. How can this innate horrible creature that makes the sun go down be a girl and how can this repulsiveness creature have someone who loves her? Well if we consider that this ugly woman is the earth with his cruel natural laws, of course she has a lover! The lover of this ugly earth is mankind who cannot live without her even she is naturally ugly or she became ugly because of the same mankind.

But look at this:

Humans are just creatures of the eye Beautiful things are what I want But you, you aren't beautiful, no

Humans are creature of the eyes means that they wants to see beautiful things. But it’s not a social problem if a girl is ugly. It couldn’t be a problem till this point. This sentence is to much important to be confined to the beauty of a girl. Humans here are not the view as the bad poor society. But humans here be humans in the higher and deepest sense! Even if sometimes they do wrong things, human’s aim is the beauty. They are not done to be animal and stay under the control of natural laws. Humans aim is the beauty since the Greek culture. They are creature of the eye reefers not only to the aesthetical side of human wanting but even and more to their spiritual needs that natural laws make impossible for the human to reach. Why they are creature of THE EYE? The eye here is the central eye, the eye of the pineal gland, the part of the brain that makes spiritual elevation in yoga and where dreams are created!

So at the end this is a war song between earth and his inhabitants, natural laws and spiritual laws where there are no good or bad party. We can consider it a love song too only if we consider also the hate:

Hate and love of people versus their condition and their own lives.

And the star wants to shine onto the beloved of mine It warms my breast and shakes where life beats To see with the heart she is simply beautiful

This is a good ending. The Venus/Morning Star or Lucifer/Light Bringer is finally bringing the light of the sun, the light of a new day for the earth. This light is so powerful to come inside of the souls and to make the humans see how beautiful is in reality the beloved place they are living in. So the war is ending and maybe a new conception of life is coming where people can join their physical and spiritual need without making the earth a bad and ugly place to stay like a paradise. But in reality the new days are the age of Aquarius coming on top in 2400 and beginning his effects on 2012 with the planetary alignment which will cause most of problems Morgenstern song is try to denounce. 2012 is the top of this strange war that this Rammstein song is trying to explain.

I think the main turning point in the song is near the end where the church choir starts singing again, and afterwards it's just Till telling her how beautiful she is, maybe the choir is the "morgenstern" (morningstar), shining on her, and changing her appearence so she is seen as beautiful.

It's pretty confusing, but as far as I can tell, it's about his loved one is really bad looking. And so he asks the Morningstar to shine it's light on her, so that people can see the person inside, the person behind the face. Hence the last verse and the "Morningstar, oh shine, onto the soul of mine."

yeah, i agree, but am i the only one who knows that lucifer (satan) is referred to as the "morningstar" in the bible? could that have something to do with it maybe? i simply don't know, this song is weird

this song gave me chills when i heard it but i had no idea that the translation would bring a tear 2 my eye. it's deep

i figured it out, upon looking it over again, the song is about a man who at first can't bring himself to believe he's in love with this woman who isn't ugly, and upon some kind of revelation, realizes that who she is on the inside is beautiful

So...my guess is that this melody is about a woman that suffered an accident...burned or something...and now...she has this scars on her face...and she's "afraid" to come out and face the world...and afraid of what the people around her might say...so...she only goes out at night and watches the stars and admires their beautifulness and it makes her cry and she keeps saying that she is ugly...But there is someone that loves her since before the accident...and even though she is some kind of freak now he knows what a wonderfull person she is and that "she is simply beautiful" inside...Anyway...I think this melody is deeper...I have some ideas that keep spinning in my head but I just don't know how to put them head to tail....I love the song......

The morning star ( or "Mourning", like the feeling) was lucifer.......anyway the song is pretty simple (and still kick ass) the girl in the song is ugly or it is more like that society thinks she is ugly, and the girl basically needs to sell her soul to the mourning star...which means she needs to get plastic surgery or conform to what society thinks is beauty but in the end there is a whole realization to the common theme "beauty is on the inside"

the only part of the song im not clear on is who is talking (not litterally), the speaker seems to have pity on the girl but then has an ominus knowledge, i think its just the narrarator and not a man or the society figure........the litteral english translation does kinda hack the beautiful german poetry (no offense)

K, guys, I know Morningstar means Lucifer but I doubt that's what's being referred to here. Morningstar also means "Venus, the Goddess of Beauty" in Roman mythology and she granted people good looks. The girl is ugly so she prays to the Goddess of Beauty to shine on her and give her good looks, or at least make society think that she is good-looking. The man who loves her, at first, pleads to the goddess also, until he realizes that she is beautiful inside. He then proceeds to call Venus the ugly one because in mythology, she was very centered around outer beauty and it is because of her, that the one he loves is an outcast and feels so horrible about herself.