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Holiday Lyrics
(Say hey!)
Hear the sound of the falling rain Coming down like an Armageddon flame The shame The ones who died without a name Hear the dogs howling out of key To a hymn called Faith and Misery (Hey!) And bleed, the company lost the war today! I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies This is the dawning of the rest of our lives On Holiday! Hear the drum pounding out of time Another protestor has crossed the line (Hey!) To find, the money's on the other side Can I get another Amen? (Amen!) There's a flag wrapped around a score of men *Hey!) A gag, a plastic bag on a monument I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies This is the dawning of the rest our lives On Holiday! (Hey!) (Say hey!) (The representative from California has the floor" Zieg Heil to the president gasman Bombs away is your punishment Pulverize the Eiffel towers Who critiscize your government Bang bang goes the broken glass and Kill all the fags that don't agree Trials by fire, setting fire Is not a way that's meant for me Just cause, just cause because we're outlaws yeah! I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies This is the dawning of the rest of our lives I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies This is the dawning of the rest of our lives ... This is our lives on holiday!
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02-21-2005
Bush will not just invade any country he pleases. Iran just told us that they have nuclear weapons and Bush said that he will not use ant military action to solve the conflict. Plus, Hitler invaded numerous countries while Bush has only invaded one. And Hitler never got rid of cruel dictators who killed their people without blinking a eye, and Bush got rid of Sadamm, who killed more people in his reign then those who have died in the war.
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02-22-2005
I am especially amazed at the density of images and meanings that they have managed to create.
I think the song is generally anti-war-in-Iraq, not just an attack on Bush; Bush-bashing seems just side-swiping, the main target is *everyone* involved in the war. The first four lines set the tone ("Armageddon flame"/"the ones that die without a name" - collateral damage anyone?). The image of the flag / "a gag" is quite a clear reference to the images of the returning coffins that the military tried to gag; it might well have other meanings that escape me now (I'm not American).
Last thing for now: the part from "The representative from California" onward - California Uber Alles? (one of the first things that I thought of). Predates the Governator, and just another layer .
This really is a brilliant song; I'll bet a few savvy English teachers could use it to revive kids' interest in poetry and maybe get a few more thinking bands writing at the same time.....
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02-22-2005
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02-26-2005
>Bush will not just invade any country he pleases.
He won't, because he is constrained by American public opinion and he also knows world opinion does have a breaking point. But there is no matter of principle involved in that. If he can justify invading an emasculated banana republic like Iraq and call it 'defense', what can't he justify?
>Iran just told us that they have nuclear weapons and Bush said that he will not use ant military action to solve the conflict.
You mean North Korea. I suppose we have to give Bush partial credit for having the good sense not to go war against a country that is already nuclear-armed, but is that really high praise?
>Plus, Hitler invaded numerous countries while Bush has only invaded one.
Two. If his advisers have his way, it won't stop at two.
>And Hitler never got rid of cruel dictators who killed their people without blinking a eye
Hitler's main interest in his career was fighting the Communists and in particular the USSR. Had he been successful, he would've "gotten rid" of Stalin who did kill his people "without blinking an eye." But Stalin's evil did not justify Hitler's evil. Nor did Hitler's evil justify Stalin's evil. The fact that your enemies are evil does not establish that you are good.
>and Bush got rid of Sadamm, who killed more people in his reign then those who have died in the war.
This statement is literally true, that is, Saddam's regime killed many more people over 24 years than the war has in the last 2 years. But is that a reasonable comparison? If you think it is, please recall:
* The 1990-91 war killed tens of thousands of Iraqis.
* The 1990-2003 sanctions--nominally enforced by the UN, but mainly at our behest--killed between one and two million Iraqis according to all reliable estimates.
* When Saddam's crimes were at their worst, that is, when he committed most of his atrocities, the United States was in his corner. We helped instigate his 1980 invasion of Iran, we shared intelligence with him when we knew he was using poison gas against Iran, we allowed him to import anthrax and raw materials for VX and sarin gas which he then turned on the Kurdish minority, and, as been demonstrated for many years, we gave him a "green light" to invade Kuwait. After Iraq's thrashing in the 1990-91 war, Hussein was in control of a degraded country, unable to feed itself, let alone pose a serious threat to its neighbors. This was the condition it was in in 2003.
To suppose that the country that armed Hussein to the teeth when his crimes were at their worst has suddenly has a change of heart, and actually has the interest of the Iraqi people in mind, is at best an exercise in credulous patriotism at the expense of common sense. At worst it is simply kneejerk stupidity. This is precisely the point GD meant to underline by creating tracks like "American Idiot" and "Holiday."
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02-26-2005
Pepsi. It's the cola.
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02-27-2005
Shutup jerk. You're lucky my mom doesn't know you or she'd probably tell your mom you're a stupid head.
Now that I have the immature personal attacks aside, that's your opinion and you are more than entitled to it. However, I was a little shocked to find out Green Day did not like Bush, like you said, but I do not actually care, unlike you said. How does Billy Joe Armstrong affect my life? Why the hell would I care if his opinions differ from mine? He's 15 years older than me and from a completely different side of the country. I do agree with them some things, but not on other things. But whether I agree or disagree with Green Day affects my life very little.
But often times I lie awake at night wondering if you, lucky guess rox, agree with me. It seems you don't. Well, I guess asphyxiation is on the menu for tonite...
I hope my opinion means as little to you as yours does to me.
I'm going to eat a doughnut now.
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02-28-2005
This website has what I believe to be the best interpretation of the story that Billie, Tre, and Mike based "American Idiot" on.
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=paxil_deprived
This is my favorite song off of the album.
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03-01-2005
They're actions may not be the same, but they both think/thought God wanted them to rule.
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." - Adolf Hitler
"God told me to strike at Al Qa'ida and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did. With the might of God on our side we will triumph." - George Bush
There is a comparison, and no one can say otherwise unless they're ignorant.
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03-01-2005
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03-04-2005
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03-04-2005
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03-08-2005
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03-09-2005
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03-09-2005
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03-09-2005
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03-11-2005
And yes, according with other people on this chat and even in the world, GWB looks really like a nazi (nazi is acronym for NAtional-Socialism, but for GWB it's without the socialist part of it....gasp...)
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03-11-2005
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03-11-2005
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03-11-2005
The muslims that are trying to kill us (which is a VERY little percent of them) are not trying to kill us because we invaded their country, they attacked us first (remember 9/11?). Also, if the war is so pointless than why do 90% support Bush. I guess we shouldn't listen to their opinion, after all they are the ones over there that actually see what's going on. And, as I recall, all the polls taken in Iraq showed that a great majority of Iraqi citezens liked Bush, I don't remember the Polish citezens liking Hitler all that much.
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03-12-2005
Sorry, I meant 90% of the military.
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03-13-2005
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03-13-2005
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03-14-2005
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03-14-2005
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03-14-2005
You realize that the military is shrinking... So if they support lies then they deserve what they voted for. I don't want our men and women of the military to die in vain, but it's not their decision to make. They follow orders. I want to get this chapter in Iraq over with.
And you all realize that the recruiters in the army and marines are having huge shortfalls? Nobody is going to join an army where they are going to be forced to serve extra tours of duty. The defense department doesn't even support the troops with the supplies and honoring their contracts... So who will?
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