Just last night I woke from some unconscionable dream
Had it nailed to my forehead again
To keep this boat afloat
There are things you can't afford to know
So I save all my breath for the sails
But you'll find those lingering voices
Are just your ego's attempt to make it all clean and nice and make a moron out of you
Walking a bridge on weakening cables
Huddled up in fear and hate because we know our fate and it's a lot to put us through
Most ideas turn to dust
As there are few in which we can all trust
Haven't you noticed I've been shedding all of mine?
So let's abandon that track
And leave our fathers fighting in a sack
'Cause we're way too wise-assed for that
You might find some fools at your doorstep
Hustling the latest changes to the book that's the strangest
In an attempt to multiply
Marionettes on weakening cables
Huddled up with fear and hate because they know their fate and it's a lot to put them through
We've taken on a climb
And it's long enough to put the best of us on our backs
Walking up a slide
And there are those we know who'd have us five miles off the track
You'll find those lingering voices
Are just your ego's attempt to make it all clean and nice and make a moron out of you
Crossing a bridge on weakening cables
Huddled up with fear and hate because we know our fate and it's a lot to put us through



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    General Comment:oh and i also liked lucywhat's comment.
    Flag jellybellyellieon April 08, 2009   Link
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    General Comment:I see the song more like dcov28. Of course, I’m Catholic so my religious opinions influence how I interpret the song. I think it is about anti-religion, but to me, it is talking about the pit falls of being anti-religion or without faith.

    Specifically I love what dcov28 said about “because we know our fate and that’s a lot to put us through”
    Because if you were and atheist, you know you fate is to die—and that’s it. No after life. No heaven.
    I believe in heaven and if I didn’t feel confident in that belief I would be ‘huddled up in fear and hate too”. How depressing would it be to know that this is it. We have one life and then..that’s it.

    Now I’m no expert on the artists of the shins. I don’t look up what they believe because I like to customize the songs meanings for what they mean to me
    but with the line—“most ideas turn to dust as there are few in which we trust.”
    I can’t help but think of how a lot of philosophies and religions lack staying power but monotheistic religions have been around for quite some time now. So they are the few that can be trusted
    And maybe the narrator has been “shedding all of” the ideas he can’t trust—the new-age fads or his disbelief in religion.

    With the line “and leave our fathers fighting in a sack, cause we are way too wise-assed for that”
    I think the narrator is mocking the kids that are anti-referring to the kids who rebel from their parents or religion just for the sake of it, not because they don’t believe in God. The kids become “marionettes”. Kids who left religion to avoid conforming to it and conformed to atheism instead.

    “We've taken on a climb, and it's long enough to put the best of us on our backs”
    May be referring to the hopelessness and the heartbreak that comes with abandoning God. Now that they have chosen a path without God, they are on their own and even the best of us can’t handle that. The path is “a bridge with weakening cables”—it seems like a strong, bold decision at the time but it loses it’s appeal because it doesn’t have a foundation (a beliefless belief system, you know?)

    I also agree that Christianity is not at all nice and neat. And I liked how dcov28 pointed that out.
    It would be simpler to believe that when we die, we are dead. And that is all.
    But to open your mind to the idea of a higher power is a harder thing to do once you are older and capable of individual thought.

    Okay so that is just what the song means to me, clearly a very different opinion to most of the people that have commented
    Flag jellybellyellieon April 08, 2009   Link
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    General Comment:i'm a massive shins fan and i love this song. i'm not going to interpret it or anything, but i don't see why so many people can beileive that it's about religion (whether they agree with the themes or not)
    In so many shins songs, mercer explains his (almost)* atheistic views, on not just religion but all/most structured philosphy.
    in saint simon he says that he "values them (these taught belief) but i wont cry everytime ones wiped out"
    in "young pilgrims" he says "if your able (as in, able to believe anything: christianity, hari krishna, marxism, harry potter) i suggest it/ cause this modern thought can get the best of you" (the modern biological thought of being dead equals nothingness for eternity.)
    and finally in "A comet appears" he says "we can blow on our thumbs and postures but the lonley are such delicate things." ( as in, we might, he might, not be able to belive these many theories and religions, and as 21st century people we can take solice in evolution (opposable thumbs and upright postures are evidence of evolution) yet if we can fake a belief and truely force ourselves to belive it then we'll basically be happier (and not waste life worrying about death). that why i think people have created religions where you have to sacrifice something (sunday mornings, adultery lol) so these beliefs seem more real to them and they can therefore create "heaven on earth"
    sorry for getting all philosphical in a lyrics blog.

    * i persoanlly think mercer is not an atheist he just lives in a time where you can go to your local religion and philosophy supermarket and chose from a choice of belief or even make your own. so he's not atheist, he just can't MAKE himself "buy" one.
    Flag lucywhaton September 29, 2008   Link
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    General Comment:oooh just saw the "If the lyrics for Fighting In A Sack, by Shins, The, are incorrect, please use the Report Thread in the forums so that our team of moderators can make the needed changes. Please do not post the corrections within the comments." Alrightyy then... I'll go do that now.
    Flag eating_for_youon July 31, 2008   Link
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    General Comment:correct lyrics (i'm pretty sure):

    "Just last night I woke from some unconscionable dream
    Had it nailed to my forehead again
    To keep this boat afloat
    There are things you can't afford to know
    So I save all my breath for the sails
    But you'll find those lingering voices
    Are just your ego's attempt to make it all clean and nice and make a moron out of you
    Walking a bridge on weakening cables
    Huddled up in fear and hate because we know our fate and it's a lot to put us through
    Most ideas turn to dust
    As there are few in which we can all trust
    Haven't you noticed I've been shedding all of mine?
    So let's abandon that track
    And leave our fathers fighting in a sack
    'Cause we're way too wise-assed for that
    You might find some fools at your doorstep
    Hustling the latest changes to the book that's the strangest
    In an attempt to multiply
    Marionettes on weakening cables
    Huddled up with fear and hate because they know their fate and it's a lot to put them through
    We've taken on a climb
    And it's long enough to put the best of us on our backs
    Walking up a slide
    And there are those we know who'd have us five miles off the track
    You'll find those lingering voices
    Are just your ego's attempt to make it all clean and nice and make a moron out of you
    Crossing a bridge on weakening cables
    Huddled up with fear and hate because we know our fate and it's a lot to put us through"

    doesn't change the meaning but there were a few words that were wrong.
    Flag eating_for_youon July 31, 2008   Link
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    General Comment:anyone would try to push what they think..

    except sometimes the more arguable one is probably right.. accept the fact both ideas are plausable but also try to understand the other side i guess. so the making mistakes over and over does work. but it kind of fits in this whole anti-religion theme.. don't make the mistake our fathers made by wasting ur time with religion. again.

    but i think the whole atheist stereotype was ignorant hahahaha

    you seem chauvinistic and arrogant. above atheists. too.

    but hey i'm not atheist

    the shins are truly amazing, truly.

    and i wonder if the USA Today writer for the good JW's is associated with them somehow...

    hmm ok u could take this song to say: wasting time thinking about stuff like philosophy and religion will kill you. or drown/sink you. so like religious wars and whatnot. ya? perhaps
    Flag xocouturecoutureon April 06, 2008   Link
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    General Comment:oh yeah, i love the song!
    Flag dcov28on January 05, 2008   Link
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    General Comment:first i understand what most of you are saying about the song being very anti-religion/belief, but it is hypocritical to call bumpygrimes ignorant while many of you are making totally unfair remarks about christians and chritianity itself.

    now to analyze from my opinion - to me the line
    " Marionettes on weakening cables
    Huddled up with fear and hate because they know their fate and it's a lot to put them through"
    takes christianity out of the picture. i have never met a christain who knows their fate and is scared. in the christain faith knowing your fate would be very reasureing seeing as they know they will be saved. as a christain i do have doubts sometimes and, to me, the doubts are the lingering voices.

    also religion, christainity at least (that's all i can really speak for), is not all nice and neat. that is one reason i believe. believing is not easy as many would seem to be suggesting.

    also "hustling the changes to the book that's the strangest" doesn't have anything to do with christianity. christianity hasn't really changed since luther and calvin. (sorry mormon... i don't buy it. maybe that's what it's about...).

    lastly, isn't it a little ironic that we are pondering a song in which the line
    "Most ideas turn to dust
    As there are few in which we can all trust
    Haven't you noticed I've been shedding all of mine?"
    Flag dcov28on January 05, 2008   Link
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    General Comment:fools at your doorstep, hustling the latest changes to the book of the strange in an attempt to multiply - how could that NOT be about religious folks trying to justify themselves with their books? also, i think the marionettes on weakening cables is them too, because they just want to be puppets to a god who really isn't there.

    love the energy of this song, got to go see them in concery :D
    Flag seasontotasteon September 19, 2007   Link
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    General Comment:Just one little comment about this beautiful piece: the lingering voices at least to me, means society(one that is notably religous) or as commonly referred to by freud the superego which, as a whole imposing on your mind, at an almost propaganda like level that there is some ultimate purpose suggesting an almost sort of blind optimism towards progress, which mercer denounces
    Flag cogswellon March 14, 2007   Link

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