Warren wanted a Beach Boys thing for this one, and Carl Wilson and Billy Hinsche came in, with Carl arranging the vocal parts. The other harmony vocalists (credited as the "Gentlemen Boys") were Jackson Browne, J.D. Souther, Zevon's longtime backers Waddy Wachtel and Jorge Calderon, and Linda Rondstadt/Stone Poneys guitarist Kenny Edwards.
Maybe it's too late for an intellectual debate,
But a residue of confusion remains.
Changing with the times,
And amphetamine tortured minds
Are average the citizen's sources of pain.
Tell me what we're fighting forâ??
I don't remember anymore,
Only temporary reprieve
And the world might cease
If we fail to tame the beast
From the faith that you release
Comes an atheist peace.
Atheist peace.
Political forces ran
Political winds of discontent,
And the modern age emerged triumphantly.
But now that safety's gone,
And it's time to de-evolve
And relive the dark chapters of history
Tell me what we're fighting forâ??
No progress ever came from war,
Only a false sense of increase
And the world won't wait
For the truth upon a plate
But we're ready now to feast on an atheist peace.
Atheist peace
But a residue of confusion remains.
Changing with the times,
And amphetamine tortured minds
Are average the citizen's sources of pain.
Tell me what we're fighting forâ??
I don't remember anymore,
Only temporary reprieve
And the world might cease
If we fail to tame the beast
From the faith that you release
Comes an atheist peace.
Atheist peace.
Political forces ran
Political winds of discontent,
And the modern age emerged triumphantly.
But now that safety's gone,
And it's time to de-evolve
And relive the dark chapters of history
Tell me what we're fighting forâ??
No progress ever came from war,
Only a false sense of increase
And the world won't wait
For the truth upon a plate
But we're ready now to feast on an atheist peace.
Atheist peace
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Atheism is the true scourge of society, It is responsible for more perversion, depravity, crime and I might say the apes you believe you are descended from are more civilized than the atheist. They atheist mantra is "we would rather build hospitals than churches'. Why don't you name a hospital or 2 built by atheist money that isn't an abortion clinic. Atheists are just the useful idiots of satan, the funny part is I don't hear hear atheists bagging on satan. might that be because he is their master who they deny the existence of? You deny against your intellect and all that surrounds you that some how matter created itself from nothing. That's ludicrous on it's face. The Christians of the time weren't the people saying the earth was flat It was science and academia that came up with that gem. Do you think for a minute that man could even think of the 10 commandment's. By the way I challenge you to tell me who the author of atheism is. Not famous European atheists, but the true author? What the atheist does, is invent a god in their image and choose not believe that one. If the afore so called religious violators would have lived and ruled by the truth of Christianity the chaos wouldn't have taken place. Darwin has not been proven the lie has just been expanded.
Hey, hey Gallium! Shut up! Yes man could have thought of the ten commandments! They aren't that complicated. There is no "author of atheism", because atheism isn't some group or club, it's a goddamn belief system shared by separate people. The point is that atheists don't believe in God, not that they believe themselves ones.<br /> <br /> My point is, you don't need to fill half of a comment section, one which is supposed to be used to decipher the meaning behind the lyrics of a song, with your retarded drivel. And no, I'm not just saying this because you are a Christian. I'd be saying the same thing if you were an atheist, an agnostic, or even a Zoroastrian.
Like your name? Just another pissed off Bad Religion fan. Vile and hateful,just like their music,
Gallium31, your argument of Atheism as the ''scourge of society'' has some logical reasoning. It would be reasonable to suggest that God-fearing citizens would not become perveted or commit crime, however, certain religious teaching are inturpreted in different ways. For example Jihad or ''Holy War'' means to some extremists physical violence instead of metaphorical war. As I'm sure you're aware, such religious followers cannot possibly be considered 'good'. Christianity is not without fault either, take the Crusades or even the witchcraft trials. Athiests have contributed their part to the wars over time, as have religions - it would be immpossible to claim one is more responsible. But afterall ''Maybe it's too late for an intellectual debate'' as ignorance has already won.
Indeed. It looks like it is too late for intellectual debate.
Damn, you show up on every bad religion comment section on this website. Do you have nothing better to do with your time than hassle people? Even if you don't agree with him, at least graffin doesn't shove his beliefs down your throat like you are. He just writes about how he interprets the world. Agree or not, he's not asking anyone to follow him - just to think about his ideas. That's what science and atheism are all about. No dogma, no heroes.<br /> <br /> So, Gallium31, have your own opinions (seriously, it's good! That's the whole point!) but who are you convincing by posting comments like this?
Your right Graffin would rather use the art of propaganda like Bernaise or Goebbles. People are flawed and seek power. this song only appeals to the Ignorant. the reason I post is because I don't want to see people put on trains to camps. Which if you look at history attitudes of this nature have led and will lead to it. I hope you can see beyond your narrow view and see the implications of the removal of god from society.
jmp, I agree. Religion may not be the cause of all the wars and genocides but ideologies that present large population of a large region as enemies who try to destroy them because they are presented as Barbarians or inferior Blacks or Communists or Muslims. So the enemies of Freedom/Christians/Whites want to destroy Empires even if they are military inferior. So the enemies deserve to be subdued via corporations for example or installing dictators who get richer and richer while the population is starving. The Empire hugely profits from the corporations/dictators in colonies and exploit the natural resources (coffee, gold, OIL). The population start rebellions and like in India or Africa they get smashed by the superior military of the Empire/puppet state and millions get killed. Take a good look at the history of India, China or Indochina. The population start Guerrilla warfare and they crush the dictators and stop the exploitation. People like gallium31 are not able to debate so they dodge and insult people (ad hominem). He claims to believe in academia/science but I guess denies global warming and the scientific consensus that we need green energy.<br />
Funny; like Atheism, all theistic followers have their own podium of humility. Just because one aspect of belief contains ignorant followers who only abide to its standpoint solely for the fact that they can appear more intelligent doesn't mean the theistic side isn't filled with illiterate vermins that can't apply their god-given brain to open-mindedness.
Gallium31, i'm sorry but your arguments are fuckin pathetic. Atheist doesnt have an 'author", you're just a pathetic fanatic christian who probably doesnt even know what is science (ignorant who can only say things like "matter came from nothing" and cant even understand the scientific method or the theories in science). You're fuckin prejudiced and an arrogant butthurt kid who dare calls people hypocrites but keeps trolling songs that challenge your belief. You should have shame of yourself, your religion says it's about love, but it's all a hypocrisy, just look at christians like you. Good luck with your fallacies, your generalizations (not every atheist is pro abortion, you douche) and your ignorance about anything contrary to your corrupted christian system. I just hope that YOU, can see beyond your narrow view and see the implications of hate against other people who dont agree with your thinking, and that at least you try to have better argumments, not this christian midia shit.<br /> <br /> And hey, japscatratpack, if you're talking about a podium of humility, you might want to check the context of the world's current ocidental society. Christian are the majority, and the majority of them follow their concepts blidly and everyone who disagrees with them is wrong and has to be corrected, just like gallium31 here. I know that not every religious person has to an ignorant prick, but unfortunatelly almost every religious person keeps some sort of biased thought about atheists.
"It is responsible for more perversion, depravity, crime "<br /> <br /> I take it you're unaware that atheism has a very statistically significant negative correlation with criminality. Atheists are enormously underrepresented in US prison populations and atheist majority states have statistically far less crime and social problems in general compared to majority religious states.<br /> <br /> I mean, either you're unaware and making shit up out of complete ignorance... or you're a gigantic liar. Which is it?<br /> <br /> "I don't hear hear atheists bagging on satan."<br /> <br /> Nor Papa Smurf, you fucktard. Do you criticize characters you know don't exist like they're real?
You are so full of poo...What? Are all the atheists living in Berkeley so that's why we can keep such good stats on them;) LOL. You speak through your atheistic arse, which God loves by the way:) I know you just LOVE hearing that!
I just wanted to point out that anyone who says the words "Scientific Consensus" is a complete tard. Ever listen to No Substance; Come Join Us; Against the Grain? <br /> <br /> "Consensus is not a fact based exorcize"<br /> -No substance<br /> <br /> "I heard you were looking for a way to live <br /> where truth is determined by consensus"<br /> -Come Join Us (The whole song is laced heavily with sarcasm)<br /> <br /> "there's a common consensus and a<br /> uncomfortable cheer, a reverberating chorus that anyone can hear, it<br /> sings 'leave your cares behind you, just grab tenaciously', this<br /> lulling sense of purpose will destroy us rapidly....<br /> <br /> ...Against the grain"<br /> The grain is following that common consensus.<br /> <br /> If you don't get my meaning after this point there's no hope for you;<br /> american.com/archive/2010/march/when-to-doubt-a-scientific-consensus/<br /> <br /> Galliums an idiot, but you're the bigger idiots for getting upset because of what he said. The mature thing to do is to laugh at him and ignore it. You're not debating, you're being children. You all throw around science and knowledge like it means something, but you never once bothered to question what you know. Suck my balls.