Dear darling,
Your mom, my friend
Left a message on my machine
She was frantic
Saying you were talking crazy.

That you wanted to do away with yourself.
Guess she thought I would be the perfect resort
Because we've had this inexplicable connection since our youth

And yes, they're in shock
They are panicked
You and your chronic
Them and their drama
You this embarrassment
Us in the middle of this delusion.

If we were our bodies,
If we were our futures,
If we were our defenses,
Id be joining you.

If we were our culture,
If we were our leaders,
If we were our denials,
Id be joining you.

I remember vividly a day years ago,
We were camping.
You knew more than you thought you should know.
You said I don't want ever to be brainwashed
And you were mind boggling, you were intense.
You were uncomfortable in your own skin.
You were thirsty,
But mostly you were beautiful.

If we were our name tags,
If we were our rejections,
If we were our outcomes,
Id be joining you.

If we were our indignities,
If we were our successes,
If we were our emotions,
Id be joining you.

You and I, were like four year olds.
We want to know why, and how come about everything.
We want to reveal ourselves at will, and speak our minds.
And never talk small talk and be intuitive,
And question mightily, and find God my tortured beacon.

We need to find like-minded companions.

If we were their condemnations,
If we were their projections,
If we were our paranoia's, Id be joining you.

If we were our incomes,
If we were our obsessions,
If we were our afflictions, Id be joining you.

We need a reflection,
We need a really good memory.
Feel free to call me a little more often.



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Track duration: 05:09

"Joining You" as written by Alanis Nadine Morissette, Glen Ballard

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    My Opinion:"... and find God... my tortured beacon."
    Bless you for remembering Alanis
    Flag WHEREWASIon April 02, 2013   Link
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    My Interpretation:Whenever I hear this song I think of two friends who are quite far apart in age (say,7 years or something) and one of them is about 14/15 and the other one is about 21/22 and the 14/15 year old one is feeling really upset and wanting to kill herself and so the mum seeks advice from the 21/22 year old because she knows she can trust her and she knows they are very close ( "Your mom, My friend") and the 21/22 year old is singing this to the 14/15 year old saying if all the stuff we did defined us I'd would be in your situation as well but it doesn't,so don't worry. She's also reminding her of how similar they are and how she is so beautiful. They might not talk very much apart from when they're together so she wants to tell her that if she ever needs something she can always call her and she doesn't need to feel like this ("Feel free to call me a little more often.") And that she'll always be there to offer her advice and talk to her about life and things.
    Flag Regicakeon October 18, 2012   Link
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    General Comment:I have a completely different take on this song. My impression is that this call was made to HER - these are all the reasons her friend gave her for not giving in to her suicidal thoughts. These friends hadn't spoken in many years, but when they did, those years fell away and it was one old friend reminding another that, yes, everyone is different, everyone has problems, and everyone needs to do what is right for them. If this friend didn't believe that to be true, she would be joining her in her suicidal thoughts, but she is urging her to look at it from another perspective. Just one more viewpoint to throw into the mix!
    Flag zonironion July 01, 2012   Link
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    General Comment:I love this song. Someone made the comment that this is the best non-preachy anti-suicide song out there and I very much agree with that. She talks about "us in the middle of this delusion." I don't think that it's because she's contemplating suicide herself, but she wants her friend to know that she's going to go all the way into the depths with him to see what he sees and feel what he feels. This is actually really rare, because people are usually too scared to go there. Their defenses automatically keep them from getting there even if they know that's what would be most helpful.

    I work in psych and sometimes I've seen counselors subtly devalue a depressed person with their projections, (a defense) or simply stand back and observe them from a safe distance, applying a label (or nametag) in a staff meeting, or they emphasize outcomes or successes that can be measured (sure signs the person is getting better) because that helps them (the counselor) feel more in control. And a lack of empathy is probably what got that depressed and hopeless person into that state of mind to begin with. The depressed person needs someone authentically present with them. Alannis gets that and she gives him what he needs without reacting from a place of fear (as the mother did).

    She tells him authentically about her first impressions of him, that she saw his insecurities and his hunger (or thirst) for empathy from others, and it didn't drive her away. In fact, she found him fascinating because of this, but even beyond that, she saw who he was, and she loved who he was (he was beautiful).

    Then she tells him the ways in which they're alike "we're like 4-year-olds" because he needs to know he's not truly alone and incapable of being understood, like he probably thinks. The ways in which they're alike though are different from mainstream America, which has a very narcissistic culture rather than a culture rooted in authentic experience. She still identifies with him, even in his present state of mind. She tells him why she thinks he arrived at the conclusion he came to - he's reduced life to all the things that wind up disappointing us or making us feel misunderstood and alone - our leaders, our culture, the fact that people apply nametags to us, etc. He needs to go back to living in the moment - they need a "really good memory." She tells him she's there for him whenever he needs her to be. If Alannis hadn't been a professional singer/songwriter, I think she would have been a really good psychotherapist.
    Flag LyricalBeckyon May 16, 2012   Link
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    General Comment:My favourite part is below - amazing song written by a lyrical Goddess.

    'I remember vividly a day years ago, we were camping
    you knew more that you thought you should know
    you said "I don't want ever to be brainwashed"
    and you were minboggling, you were intense,
    you were unconfortable in your own skin, you were thirsty
    but most you were beatiful'
    Flag diamondblue1974on March 28, 2010   Link
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    My Interpretation:tapmusiconly really understands this song and interprets it extremely well here. I totally agree with the interpretation and feel like I couldn't have written it better.

    "This song is about people who don't think the way most people do. If you listen to Alannis at all, you notice that her songs are completely nonconformist, this song being one of the prime examples.

    I think this song is about a friend of hers, who is obviously one of these people that think differently. Because thinking outside of mainstream "groupthink" tends to make you the subject of ridicule, rejection and accusations of insanity, he is obviously experiencing difficulties relating to others (specifically his mother, who has left this panicked message on Alannis' machine). Often the only response left to these different thinkers is (at least the threat of) suicide to fend off these attacks, especially when dealing with people who are "close" to them, but clearly can't relate to them.

    The message causes Alannis to reflect on how unique he has always been, and how he has been an inspiration to her to think outside the mainstream thought patterns. She obviously remembers specific instances where his different mindset made a difference to her, and how this truly endeared him to her.

    In the chorus(es) she takes some examples of the facts or portions of peoples lives the mainstream holds most important (i.e. projections, bodies, successes, incomes, obsessions), and turns them around for him. She is reminding him that he doesn't need to equate his personal worth to these hollow values. In fact, she states that if people (in particular "we" = she and her friend) were actually the sum total of these values, she would probably join him/her in committing suicide. It is affirmation that because he doesn't think this way, that these values are truly not what makes you a worthwhile human being, he is okay, he's not the one who's crazy.

    Finally, she is telling her friend that they are not alone. Telling him that they need better memories, etc, is telling him to go back in his mind to the things she is recalling, so that he can hold on to those times when the two of them connected on that deeper level. At the end, she is telling him that she'd like to get back to that kind of relationship. She probably has the same frustrations as him.

    I use "him" arbitrarily, although in my mind (warped as it may be) I see the friend as a guy. It could very well be a girl as well. But you get the point."


    Alanis is highly intelligent and she clearly has a gift to be able to articulate her brilliance into words in songs. This is my favorite part of the song as I can so relate to what she is saying here:
    "You and I we're like 4 year olds
    we want to know why and how come about everything
    we want to reveal ourselves at will and speak our minds
    and never talk small and be intuictive
    and question mightily and find God my tortured beacon
    we need to find like-minded companions"

    This is one of her best songs in my opinion.
    Flag musicman2010on January 24, 2010   Link
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    General Comment:BTW, "JY" may have been written for the same very close friend from childhood "Mary Jane" was written for, at least at one level. (Alanis =stated= that she wrote "MJ" for her friend, but also wrote "MJ" to herself to chill. Al has experienced several periods of extreme anxious depression (1994 and 2007 that I know of for sure). She says many of her tunes are "self-instruction pieces;" this may also be one of them. Regardless, =I= will happily take the instruction in it after a pair wake-ups in the ICU years ago.
    Flag naughtmoseson September 09, 2009   Link
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    General Comment:I took every one of the "if we were our... " lines and ran them through the new belief system reconstruction therapy technique called "SIQR." (State the belief, turn it into a question, answer it positively, answer it negatively, then write a brief essay on what came up during the typing or non-dominant handwriting of the four sentences.)

    I put it on my blog at <sighkoblahgrr.blogspot.com/2009/07/…>. Lordy. What an experience.

    "Feel free to call a little more often." Indeed. (Will someone =puh-leeze= give this woman an honorary Psy.D. before I have to set myself on fire in front of some dean's office?)
    Flag naughtmoseson September 09, 2009   Link
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    General Comment:the reason alanis does not say what we are is because NO physical thing can define you. if you look toward things to define yourself, you only create suffering for yourself.
    Flag sopurejunkieon July 11, 2009   Link
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    My Opinion:What I love about this song, is that Alanis does what she does so well in her songs: she cuts through all the b@*^S)%^, and tells it like it is. She means that we are more than just a bunch of labels. People like to catagorize each other and then make judgements and comparisons: What do you do for a living?; what neighborhood do you live in?; how much education do you have?; are you married?. As though people can be reduced to labels. We are more than the sum of our parts, and in the end, the only one that we are in competition with are ourselves. Alanis understands that if we just judge ourself by society's (meaning Western society's) standards, we end up feeling empty and unfulfilled, no matter how outwardly successful we appear to be. It took me a long time to learn this in my own life, but I'm a better, humbler, (and I hope, kinder) person for that hard-earned knowledge. The song is quite obviously Alanis trying to reason with the child of a friend who has bought into our societ'y false values and been driven to despair by it. I don't know if this song is based on fact, but if so, I hope the child listened to Alanis's wise words.

    This song is so relevant today, considering what has happended to our country in the last 18 months. This recession (swiftly degenerating into a depression, God help us), has laid a lot of people low, including myself. I was laid off from my job a year ago, and all the education and middle class striving on my part didn't help me. Isn't it ironic (excuse the joke) that this song is one that buoys me up in this very difficult time. It reminds me that I am more than a displaced worker, more than my lost job, more than the amount on my unemployment check. Thank you, Alanis, for this song, because I think you may have saved MY life with it.
    Flag Martinsherry16on April 10, 2009   Link

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