| Joy Division – Ceremony Lyrics | 7 years ago |
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@[minuette:14852] - Have you ever loved someone who was suicidal? Do you know the look on their face or the touch of their hand as they're being force fed charcoal? Have you broke in to someone's apartment to save them from an overdose, but then had to wait secretly outside for their family to take them to the hospital? Then have them refuse to speak to you for months while they were out sleeping with your friends? Have you ever had your life destroyed by being declared a stalker by the government just for emailing them, trying to make sure they understood you wouldn't be there to save them again? Have you ever had a lawyer tell you that you stood no chance because you "fit the profile"? I wrote this comment in an attempt to communicate with that person after I was threatened with being put in jail if I made any contact with them again. They have also commented on this song here. I don't remember or care about the research I put into writing this comment or what this song means to anyone. I would delete it if I could. Maybe it's just the PTSD, but I no longer care if anyone finds the help they need. I tried to save someone from destroying themselves and got my life destroyed for it instead. The only thing I cared about was that they were ok. No one cared; they thought I was the threat. Thanks for bringing back those memories. Please leave me alone. |
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| Joy Division – Ceremony Lyrics | 14 years ago |
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I'm not sure if this site is for deciphering meaning in songs or just a forum for anyone's half-baked conception of what a song means to them. These are not conflicting exercises, per se, but if you just want to voice the feeling a song evokes in you, FIND SOMEONE TO TALK TO. Especially if it's a song like this that resonates with you. If you're just going to use a song as a Rorschach Test, then all you can tell from people's interpretations is how THEY are thinking. Which is fine and all, but.... boring... To me exploring the writer's intentions to the extent possible sometimes makes a song come to life in a completely different way. The only comments I've seen here that illuminate this song to me are those explaining the relationship with Annik and the events surrounding it. He loved two people at the same time: a common state of affairs to be sure, but apparently too much for him to handle. I find it interesting that the song isn't explicitly addressed to Annik or his wife. That makes sense; he's confused. Who does he want to be with? He doesn't know what to do. It's in this vein that I wonder who the last stanza specifically is addressed to. Both women? It is clearly about some aspect of a funeral ceremony. He seems to be saying that this ceremony will be good conclusion for everyone involved. "Watching love grow" and "letting me know" seem to imply this. She/they will understand his love for them and he will "know" which one, "loved him the most." He couldn't pick so he cops out. As everyone should know, taking yourself out of this world is NOT a way to show others how you care about them. It shows just the opposite: how much you care about yourself. The song is beautiful and haunting, but the scene is a disgusting one. Think Guernica for its era's nihilism. War may be a fact of life, and such realities can be captured beautifully -- as they arguably are here. That doesn't change the fact that "war is hell." So is losing a loved one. (Or even thinking you might lose a loved one). Don't confuse poignant depiction with glorification. |
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