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1. No nu-metal, metalcore, hardcore, emo, rapcore, -core in general, etc... unless it's relevant. This is a metal thread, we can talk about all the other shit in other threads.

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3. If you know little about metal, we strongly suggest observing before commenting; or asking. There is no shame in ignorance, but stupidity is another thing. We don't bite anyway...

4. No DragonForce. Okay, some dare call it power metal, which would make it permitted in this thread. I don't give a shit; no DragonForce.



Okay, enough Hitlerism.
Let's talk metal.

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alright! is crossover permitted? i'm wondering what your favorite crossover band is. i want to get into the genre but where do i start?

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Doom metal: Opinions?


Anyone who knows me knows I used to be anti-doom. Now I'm not. In fact, I've been listening to a lot of doom metal and post-doom bands and bands influenced by doom. Still don't like funeral or drone, though.

Candlemass, My Dying Bride, Uarual, Neolithic, The 3rd And The Mortal, Mael Mórdha... all good shit. Recommend me some good doom and earn brownie points.
I'm also loving all those old doom bands that play depressive rock nowadays, like Katatonia and Anathema. Good shit.


Also, I've come to the conclusion that Primodrial fucking owns.

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Yes, it is.

Stormtroopers of Death (S.O.D.), authors of youtube.com/…" target="_self">Celtic Frosted Flakes... one of the best songs ever.
Also M.O.D and D.R.I.
I consider Suicidal Tendencies crossover, and though I haven't listened to them since 2008, they're one of my favorite bands.
I recently found 9mm... they're nice and groovy, but not amazing.
On a more punk side, there's Phil Anselmo's Arson Anthem. They're pretty crazy shit, I dig it.
Bad Acid Trip is another I'd call crossover, though not as much as grind. Anyway, they're good.
There's also Wehrmacht, an old 80's thrash/crossover band. Classic underground shit.
Leeway... they're more on the hardcore scene, but are pretty metal-oriented and have some really cool riffs. They had a song on GTA VI I think.

And of course, one of my favorites: Soziedad Alkoholika.
They're Spanish/Basque. They have a really raw style... it's truly like d-beat hardcore, only with metal riffs. They're the only non-neo-nazi band with the balls to make an anti-jew song arguing that the Mossad hunted down ex-Nazis like Nazis did jews and shout hypocrisy. Tight shite.

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Wehrmacht rules. i got the 2nd demo like and hour ago. d.r.i went metal? noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! i have the dirty rottin ep (the original thing) and i can't hear any metal in it. the only thing i have from s.o.d is the crab society north tape. m.o.d well billy pisses me off with his new lyrics. will check all those bands out. hey is grindcore okay or do i just call it grind haha. danny from anthrax is in some pretty kickass grindcore bands. check the metal archives. oh and just got into brujeria from mexico. good shit. i have a six song ep by them. fuckin nasty.

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You mean my tocallo Danny Lilker? That guy is like Dan Swanö... in a shitload of bands, most of them good.
D.R.I. didn't go metal... they're just kinda... crossover?
I don't like Billy much either, but he's got a song or three I enjoy.

Especially check out Soziedad Alkoholika and Suicidal Tendencies. Good shit!

Brujeria is fucking dope. If you speak spanish, their lyrics are quite intense... much more than Cannibal Corpse and all those wimps. So much, in fact, that being white myself, I was too scared to go to their show last year. True story.
Let me check my links... I might post their first two albums later today or tomorrow.

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well i heard full speed ahead by dri. pantera riffs with punk vocals. what site do you post your albums? check out archive.org. i'm only asking that so i can download it. i can't do rapidshare or megaupload or mediafire. funny story. you know they had white people in the band right? as well as the guitarest from terrorizer r.i.p. i know it's a bad word but the pree lamb of god band burn the priest is worth a listen. m.o.d has good songs with dumb lyrics. speak english or die is amazing. you know billy's old band the psychos? good shit. new york hardcore at it's finest. but anyway good to talk metal with someone who knows his shit. lastly i've gotttin in contact with seth from anal cunt (i think it's him) whatever you may think about ac he's a really cool guy. check out impaled northern moonforest.

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I'm afraid I only have mediafire and megaupload links. =/

I know there's white people in Brujeria, but the play with masks and shit... and you don't know how things get here in Mexico.
Racism is very limited, but it's definitely aimed at white people for a number of reasons... in my case, it doesn't help that I'm white, pale as a ghost and have an English last name.
Besides, I remember when Slayer came, about half of the attendants came out of that show with a broken bone, from broken noses to broken knees. And that's just a heavy band! I didn't want to witness what'd happen with a band that's twice as heavy and promotes sticking a machete into white people's stomachs. Also, the concert was in a part of the city where I wouldn't enter without either an armored car, bodyguards, or at least a knife and a gun with a few full clips... it's pretty much the HQ for kidnapping gangs, and other such fine members of society.


Seth is cool, but I'm not a huge fan of AC. Impaled Northern Moonforest is the shit, though. I formed an acvstic black metal projects years ago, it was called XethromantisK. Didn't go far with that... I did record like three songs and made some artwork on MS Paint, though.

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yeah that would be creepy. yeah impaled northern moonforest is cool. ever heard the mentors? i have a demo from 1986. oh that sucks about the mediafire thing. maybe i can some dude (who is not a metal fan haha) to help. on another metal subject i've really gottin into the nwobhm. that was really cool shit.

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Primordial as in the band who released To the Nameless Dead? They're pretty cool.

I've got some ultra-obscure doom from one of Loic Celliers bands (Despair's Tiny Things)

And what about October Tide (Jonas Renske & Fred Norrman's project)?

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Also, what about Decoryah? I've heard a few of their songs and they seem pretty cool.. pretty fresh for being doom influenced.

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i like the band sleep and the sword but those are more stoner. danzig? i like this one funeral doom band can't remember what they're called but i'll find out. funeral hag are some good doom crossed with death metal. check it out.

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Wijlen Wij is the name of that funeral doom band i really like.

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dragonforce

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I love doom. I think I discovered it by way of Sabbath a long while ago, and it has grown into one of my favorite types of metal. Reverend Bizarre is (was) one of the 'purest' doom bands, I love how they take the Black Sabbath template, and make it the law.

Funeral/Drone stuff can be hard to get into. Like i've seen Sunn O))) and I own all their albums, but I don't listen to them much at all. But that's ok, it's not someting to put on casually, it has its place and when you feel like it, it can hit the spot. If you want to appreciate drone - just start out with some Earth. That band is hard not to enjoy, and their newer work is rather pleasant (yet sad), and can perhaps bridge the gap from rock music to drone. On a somewhat related side point, i've met a few people at gigs who have played me their personal drone music they had written (usually performed with just layers of droning guitar and feedback) and it's interesting that there is actually quite a scene for that sort of thing. Also check out Teeth of Lions Rule the Divine, Lee Dorrian (Cathedral) teaming up with the Sunn guys for some filthy droning doom.

Anyway - love the 'classic' doom, Witchfinder General, Saint Vitus (anything Wino is involved with is awesome - Place of Skulls has an album with Wino and Victor Griffin from the next band on this list), Pentagram etc - and their modern contemporaries like Blood Ceremony, Black Pyramid, Witchcraft, Unearthly Trance. I also love what Electric Wizard does, and especially their last album as it went backwards toward the 'retro' doom sound even more. If you like the retro sound with a dose of metal, there has been more and more bands emerging in that vein. Not so much 'retro' as much as 'sabbath worship', but I love sabbath so I never complain.

Like most metal, doom has many sub-sub genres and has branched out a fair bit of late. Listening to My Dying Bride next to Yob might sound strange for example, but they are both 'doom metal' at their core.

 

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If you like Sleep - check out Elder. They are fairly new/underground, but they sound like they listened to a lot of Sleep (and know how to work a wah-solo!)

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thanks stream elder rocks. like i said if your ever in a funeral doom mood check Wijlen Wij out. i haven't heard funeral doom (i use to joke that snales were faster than funeral doom bands) but because i got inte slow bands like killdozer or asbestos death (has a connection with sleep do they not?) i figured i'd give this another try. what can i say? it's nice to slow down sometimes considering most of my collection is hardcore thrash.

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holy shit. just heard this band called Choronzon. great industindustrial black metal. check it out if you like that.

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That's right, Al and Chris from Sleep used to play bass/drums for Asbestosdeath, then Matt Pike joined as a rhythm guitarist at some point. So they pretty much were a pre-Sleep Sleep!

I love fast music, but sometimes slow can be just as heavy, if not heavier.

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Yup, that's Primordial. =)
I'll up Storm Before Calm for you... you must listen to it!

October Tide sounds good... I'll check them out.

Hmm... Loic Cellier? Post it?

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Noice.

The October Tide is essentially Brave Murder Day era Katatonia but with less repetition and more ideas. I posted it on my lateralus518.blogspot.com/2010/03/…" target="_blank">blog but nobody seemed to wanna download it. =p

And sure man. I was gonna post it sooner or later here or on my blog anyway. Actually, a quick net search turned on another release of theirs. So check that one out and if you like it, I'll post their other material.

Loic also plays bass (rather than guitar) in this project.

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Ryan, I was going through your blog, man, and I saw you posted about TearstaineD.
I'm surprised you know this band, but seeing as you only had the stuff from Barbarian Wrath...

mediafire.com/" target="_blank">The mediafire.com/" target="_blank">Suicide mediafire.com/" target="_blank">Trilogy

And mediafire.com/" target="_blank">Homicidal Tendencies.

Also have Nightmare Visions, but I haven't uploaded it yet.

I know what it's like to only have those few songs and wonder what the rest is like... happened to me for a few years, but last year I tracked down most of that stuff... pretty hard to come by. Now you can listen to it all and see everything you were missing out on.


TearstaineD might just be my favorite black metal "band", or at the very least among my favorites.
For anyone else who is wondering, TearstaineD is an awesome Black Metal one-man band that plays what many call a fusion between King Diamond/Mercyful Fate and Bathory. The result is very well-played melancholic and memorable black metal.
Mikael Bayusik, the band's only musician, first wrote the Suicide Trilogy; three albums dealing with depression and suicide.
After that, he recorded Homicidal Tendencies, which is about hate and murder, both musically and lyrically.
Later came Nightmare Visions, which I have yet to listen to, but is based on Bayusik's recurrent dreams and promises to go deep into his fascinating subconcious...

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Noice! I was looking for some more TearstaineD but came up empty handed. I'll definitely be checking these albums out. Thanks bro!

Also have you heard Vreid's latest album (Milorg)?

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metal-archives.com/…" target="_blank">October Tide

No Jonas Renske this time, though :/

decibelmagazine.com/…" target="_blank">Obligatory sample

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Actually, I downloaded the October Tide in your blog.
You do have some pretty good stuff up.

And yeah, I've listened to Milorg... it's pretty good, but I don't get the need to listen to it as often as Kraft, or especially I Krig. I have yet to get their other album.

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